20 - Dani Olmo

serghei

serghei

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It is a very tricky situation, and we had to be close to perfect to make it work squad-wise under these stressful margins. Can't be surprised that the ideal case didn't happen.

Be that as it may, without much money, the club won the last big title just 1 year ago. Some perspective wouldn't hurt.

Club needs to register Olmo, and if we do that and he delivers anything close to the great level he showed at the Euro while staying fit, it is an improvement in midfield without sacrificing the ability to be more intense in pressing. If Nico is signed next summer... then we are already underway to shape up a very good squad.
 
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ajnotkeith

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serghei said:
Yeah, I know about the ideal case scenario. That almost never happens. All clubs hit some good transfers and some bad transfers. Only part of the investment can be relied on to bring in the required assets in terms of squad value.

Take Liverpool, they signed Darwin for almost 3 times the sum they paid for Mane, and yet he contributed at half the level of Mane. Naby Keita... Minamino.... examples are multiple.

Not to mention that the club know Barca have financial trouble and use this to their own advantage in negotiations.
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You act like what he said is illogical though, it isn't really.

If you're struggling to get together money to register new signings it might be better to put mercato on pause and play with what you have until your finances repair.

Instead of doing this song and dance if we accepted a couple seasons out of the market (remember Chelsea?) and then came back with fully repaired finances and money to spend, that is better for the future of the club.

It wasn't 'almost 3 times' btw, it was about half, and after accounting for inflation its 49m euros vs 85m euros. Big difference but not '3 times' more. Important to get that right especially considering they were bought in different market periods, where it is currently more expensive to buy good forwards.
 
serghei

serghei

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ajnotkeith said:
You act like what he said is illogical though, it isn't really.

If you're struggling to get together money to register new signings it might be better to put mercato on pause and play with what you have until your finances repair.

Instead of doing this song and dance if we accepted a couple seasons out of the market (remember Chelsea?) and then came back with fully repaired finances and money to spend, that is better for the future of the club.

It wasn't 'almost 3 times' btw, it was about half, and after accounting for inflation its 49m euros vs 85m euros. Big difference but not '3 times' more. Important to get that right especially considering they were bought in different market periods, where it is currently more expensive to buy good forwards.
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Why would you put mercato on pause if you can register Olmo? If he's not registered, sure, will be looked at as a big error. They surely have options to register him.

The idea is to improve the squad. Even if you struggle to register players, if we think they can add value to the squad, it's worth the effort to try to incorporate them.

Next summer the pain will continue probably. I still expect us to try and do everything to get Nico Williams. With Olmo and Nico at least we get players that proved themselves at an elite tournament like an Euro all the way to the title. And have the proper age profile, they are not washed up players that need someone else to do the running for them.
 
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ajnotkeith

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serghei said:
Why would you put mercato on pause if you can register Olmo? If he's not registered, sure, will be looked at as a big error. They surely have options to register him.

The idea is to improve the squad. Even if you struggle to register players, if we think they can add value to the squad, it's worth the effort to try to incorporate them.
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Because if you're scrambling to find money to register him it can lead to rushed and forced decisions, like selling players for less than they're worth just to make sure you register him.

Like this stuff about selling Faye or others to get the money to register him... we're doing that because we're desperate and we could get a better deal for him probably if our hand wasn't forced now.

For that reason it's better to make sure the registration margin is already prepared before you sign him, but yeah, in our current situation it can be sometimes unavoidable.
 
serghei

serghei

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ajnotkeith said:
Because if you're scrambling to find money to register him it can lead to rushed and forced decisions, like selling players for less than they're worth just to make sure you register him.

Like this stuff about selling Faye or others to get the money to register him... we're doing that because we're desperate and we could get a better deal for him probably if our hand wasn't forced now.

For that reason it's better to make sure the registration margin is already prepared before you sign him, but yeah, in our current situation it can be sometimes unavoidable.
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Yeah, it will cost us in this area, it's probably assumed and understood as such. What we can do is protect ourselves in case these players turn out great by having a buyback option.
 
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JamDav1982

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What they can do is stop failing in Europe to point of losing 150m+ in last few seasons and then also stop making ridiculous signings like Lewa for 50m in his mid 30s on a huge contract.

Failures in Europe and those signings have put huge pressure on FFP when club expected to be in better place by now.
 
vuji_31

vuji_31

Senior Member
True I forgot about us failing in CL and not getting big money.

Araujo costed us big, we should have played in final.

Also in 2 games against Madrid we were hardly robbed and we should have won both games.

If Araujo was not idiot I belive we would have won CL
 
serghei

serghei

Senior Member
Lewa should have scored that big chance at 1-0 vs PSG. But played a very good first leg, and a 35-36 year old player can't do much when a moron gets sent off in the first half of the match.

He had a mediocre league season, but the CL elimination is not on him, everybody knows who really was to blame if we are being frank.
 
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Masetro10

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This is the same Laporta who shipped out Ronaldinho, Deco, Eto'o and then Ibrahimovic? Also we brought in Chygrinsky and he failed so we shipped him out as well

This isn't the first time.
 
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JamDav1982

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He scores to put Barca 2-0 up then that Araujo red doesnt happen.

Poor from Lewa on big European night again.

But Araujo was dumb and Xavi was dumb to not realise and react to the clear traps they were setting for Araujo on the ball.

Even then it is 3 goals PSG need to score to go through and not game over.. they have 4 before 90.

That was a bang average PSG team at best that took a dodgy pen to stop being bottom of their group and then scored zero v Dortmund.
 
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JamDav1982

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Masetro10 said:
This is the same Laporta who shipped out Ronaldinho, Deco, Eto'o and then Ibrahimovic? Also we brought in Chygrinsky and he failed so we shipped him out as well

This isn't the first time.
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No he did not ship out Ibra or Chyg.

Etoo was from Pep and a terrible deal for Ibra.
 
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