21 - Frenkie de Jong

[jamrock]

I'd say De Jong is superior to both Pedri and Olmo deeper. If no injuries happen, the depth in midfield is superb. You have Gavi too. Many top talents.

Means the focus has to be on the next 9, back-up fullback and back-up winger. Both Ferret and Ansu are simply not good enough.

I hear you, but nah.

Maybe Olmo, but not pedri, and actually neither of them.

When everyone is fit, he's our 4/5th best midfielder, depending how someone rates casado this season.

Pedri
Olmo
Gavi
All clear him.

 

[serghei]

The midfield is fine. The starting attack is fine, albeit on short term until the tractor is out. Should be quite soon. 9 is gonna be automatically expensive if you aim for the best. At the rate the team is evolving, Haaland is gonna be tempted I think.

Haaland for no9 is the best possible move for us.

 

[Co0ter]

I'd say De Jong is superior to both Pedri and Olmo deeper. If no injuries happen, the depth in midfield is superb. You have Gavi too. Many top talents.

Means the focus has to be on the next 9, back-up fullback and back-up winger. Both Ferret and Ansu are simply not good enough.

Yes, he is better than those two deeper. His competition would be with Casado if he was solely being used for the defensive role though, and Casado should start over him there anyday. Then we have Bernal coming through too.

Frenkie can play other positions too though, which is why he can be so useful.

 

[Horatio]

I am bit confused…what is Gavi getting praised for today? He played like 3 minutes.

 

[jamrock]

The Gavi vs De Jong debate is a settled one, I don't know why anyone tries to argue it anymore, it's Gavi.

This is kinda like the Pedri Vs de jong debate all Over again.

People on the de Jong side will be proven wrong with time. Again

 

[jamrock]

I am bit confused…what is Gavi getting praised for today? He played like 3 minutes.

For being Gavi.

His presence alone is excellence.

 

[jamrock]

If my deeper, they mean as a DM, that I agree he's better than those two and I stand corrected.

If my deeper you mean anything else.

NO.

 

[Co0ter]

I hear you, but nah.

Maybe Olmo, but not pedri, and actually neither of them.

When everyone is fit, he's our 4/5th best midfielder, depending how someone rates casado this season.

Pedri
Olmo
Gavi
All clear him.

My man, I agree with and understand most of your takes, but the Gavi love is extraordinary lol

 

[Horatio]

For being Gavi.

His presence alone is excellence.

He manhandled vini again. Some things are priceless

 

[jamrock]

My man, I agree with and understand most of your takes, but the Gavi love is extraordinary lol

You'll come around to it soon, lol.

He is soooooo very good.

 

[akaranzo]

Brought an amazing level of control and stability in the second half today, exactly what we needed. He's a world class player, just needs a manager that understands what he's actually good at. I hope he stays with us for a long time (maybe with a new contract that has a more sensible salary )

 

[Gazzznigga]

"deit komptroller"

 

[Gazzznigga]

Hansi Flick at the post match presser.

Reporter: what did you do differently in the second half ?

Hansi: "We made a change at the beginnig of the second half that allowed us to press more and gave us more control....."

Frenkie deit Komptroller

 

[khaled_a_d]

I'd say De Jong is superior to both Pedri and Olmo deeper.

Pedri is our 2nd best player after Raphinha while playing deeper role, and it was always clear he will fit better there than being pushed forward. He us better than Frenkie.

This wil be an uphill battle for Frenkie to get starting spot over Pedri, or Casado who is atm better fit with Pedri.

 

[khaled_a_d]

I saw nothing special. Casado and Pedri were key. Olmo was better too.
And yeah, he will never claim starting spot if he keeps on jogging.

Olmo wasn't better, he lost the ball 6 times yesterday causing many counter attacks opportunities for the Blancos. Frenkie lost it twice in almost twice the minutes.

Casado was amazing, but Casado is never a controller, not yet at least. Frenkie skill was needed for that skill tbf.