23 - Jules Kounde

Birdy

Senior Member
With every post about this you are just showing that you didn't touch a ball in your life. I have nothing against you but you are embarassing yourself with this debate. Everyone who at least once played amateur football while tired knows exactly what we are talking about. This are not opinions, it's facts.

I have been playing amateur football and my touch doesn't change with fatigue. It is what it is.
Everything else like alertness, reading of the game, decision making, stamina, runs can change

Either you have a good or a bad touch, or grades in between. Technique does not change.
Have you ever seen this clip?
No, Neymar hadn't slept better the previous night than the rest to do this, nor he was super concentrated.
It's that the ball is part of his body MUCH MORE than all the rest, that's why it is glued on his foot.
And you can see the different degrees to which this is or isn't the case for the rest

I can find tons of others clips with Ronaldinho, Messi, Maradona etc.
And there is no point to object that these are freaks. I am using purposefully these extreme cases as prime counter-examples your claim that technique is dependable on any kind of fatigue
 

Kul_z

Senior Member
I have been playing amateur football and my touch doesn't change with fatigue. It is what it is.
Everything else like alertness, reading of the game, decision making, stamina, runs can change

Either you have a good or a bad touch, or grades in between. Technique does not change.
Have you ever seen this clip?
No, Neymar hadn't slept better the previous night than the rest to do this, nor he was super concentrated.
It's that the ball is part of his body MUCH MORE than all the rest, that's why it is glued on his foot.
And you can see the different degrees to which this is or isn't the case for the rest

I can find tons of others clips with Ronaldinho, Messi, Maradona etc.
And there is no point to object that these are freaks. I am using purposefully these extreme cases as prime counter-examples your claim that technique is dependable on any kind of fatigue
Technique is very dependable on fatigue.
Not just in football, but in all sports. There were times when top talent footballers in the dying minutes of the game misplaced passes, overpower them when usually they would deliver them inch perfect. Same with first touch, use more or less energy then they usually do because the mind decieve you.
 

Horatio

You're welcome
Birdy mon ami I think you’re wrong on this one. Once body gets tired the legs become heavy. The control of making contact with ball worsens.
 

Nello

Member
I have been playing amateur football and my touch doesn't change with fatigue. It is what it is.
Everything else like alertness, reading of the game, decision making, stamina, runs can change

Either you have a good or a bad touch, or grades in between. Technique does not change.
Have you ever seen this clip?
No, Neymar hadn't slept better the previous night than the rest to do this, nor he was super concentrated.
It's that the ball is part of his body MUCH MORE than all the rest, that's why it is glued on his foot.
And you can see the different degrees to which this is or isn't the case for the rest

I can find tons of others clips with Ronaldinho, Messi, Maradona etc.
And there is no point to object that these are freaks. I am using purposefully these extreme cases as prime counter-examples your claim that technique is dependable on any kind of fatigue

Sorry but I don’t get how technique freaks, who aren’t representative of the general pro, are “prime counter examples”? Seems like an Odd type of Logic to me. Kounde isn’t comparable to Neymar imo

Also not how the scenario in the video, is a useful comparison for an in-game scenario, As they’re all chilling.
 

MonteCuler

Well-known member
Kounde overall in a nutshell

Offensively he can be great too. Against Betis he was moving like Alves. Then that assist in Supercopa.

But as great as he can be he can mess it up as well
 

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