soul24rage
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Shite game, but the save from Angel Di Maria reminded me of Dibu's save in the WC22 final
Bro should stop sweeping
Bro should stop sweeping
25 - Wojciech Szczęsny
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jamrock
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High line isn't for him, he's too slow off the line, even when he gets there, the opposition is within inches of getting the ball.
But we knew this after the Super Copa game.
But maybe he just needs time to figure it out.
He's a shot stopper and air general on crosses and set pieces.
But we knew this after the Super Copa game.
But maybe he just needs time to figure it out.
He's a shot stopper and air general on crosses and set pieces.
MontenegrinCuler
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The media and the fans were all pushing for it to happen despite Peña's amazing performances. They saw average performances against Barbastro and Bilbao and thought Tek is definitely better. Some were criticizing him for it too. Well they got a taste of it. Now Flick can start Peña again without people bitching about how Tek would be better.
jamrock
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I don't think that's what he's getting at.
TheStig
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Like jamrock said, you didn't understand. Flick's fault isn't that he played Szczesny but that he made him play as a sweeper keeper which he can't do. I understand why he wants his GK play that way but he should adapt when he plays with a different GK.
If we'll play this way it's better to just play Pena even if Tek is a better goalkeeper, just different.
MontenegrinCuler
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Well yeah saw it now
Makes no sense either. Flick plays a high line yes but his players have roles which, if they can't play accordingly, should be nowhere near the starting eleven. Peña so far was top notch in sweeping and Tek sucks at it. Peña would also not have made the blunder Tek has in that situation.
So hard to argue it's on Flick. When one keeper can do it and the other can't...
behindbrowneyes
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You can see that he was gone for a longer period of time as he is misjudging situations where he needs to make quick decisions. Can hardly train that in training with high line etc. as you rarely play 11vs.11 on a full pitch.
Whenever he can use his raw instincts in goalkeeping you notice that he was great at this and still is to a lesser degree. That Di Maria save was phenomenal and I'm sure he would got that ball if Araujo didn't intercept it into his own goal.
I like him and I appreciate that he came back from retirement, but I don't think Barca has the time to give him many more opportunities for trial and error until he learns when to stay in goal and when not.
Whenever he can use his raw instincts in goalkeeping you notice that he was great at this and still is to a lesser degree. That Di Maria save was phenomenal and I'm sure he would got that ball if Araujo didn't intercept it into his own goal.
I like him and I appreciate that he came back from retirement, but I don't think Barca has the time to give him many more opportunities for trial and error until he learns when to stay in goal and when not.
ForzaBarca
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But you can't be sure that Pena wouldn't make a mistake at other times. A simple example, a free kick against Real, Wojtek would have saved it without a problem. Such speculation doesn't make sense, if we took 10 top-class goalkeepers, each would have behaved slightly differently. One better, the other worse. As for the own goal, he practically had it in his hands, and even if he hadn't dived, the goal would probably have been scored anyway.
malvolio
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Don't worry, the clowns in here are still making up excuses for this bum.
Loki
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Even if he's better than Pena and MAtS with his hands, you clearly see by now how Barca's keeper position differs from the usual requirements. If the keeper isn't good enough with his feet and lacks speed, he will lose games on his own.
After Madrid and yesterday's game, it's clear he can't play these kind of games anymore. He'll be risking the entire game everytime he runs out.
After Madrid and yesterday's game, it's clear he can't play these kind of games anymore. He'll be risking the entire game everytime he runs out.
malvolio
Senior Member
Who came up with this theory? Based on what?
ForzaBarca
Member
to be clear - of course let Iniaki Pena defend, I guarantee that Barcelona will not score anything with him in goal. He does not have the right skills, notice how many goals he conceded due to offsides, he was lucky they were offsides, but now that other teams have already figured out Flick's team, he will concede 3 out of 4 shots on goal.
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