4 - Ronald Araújo

Co0ter

Senior Member
You are forgetting he made two big errors. The aftermath of the mistake. He was very unwilling to shoulder blame. Acted very childish and stubborn.

And yeah, he single-handedly sabotaged the game.
I agree. I've always liked Araujo but the temperament he displayed this season has been dreadful and embarrassing. It's like Xavi's whining and childish behavior rubbed off on the squad.

He 100% had no one to blame but himself for his mistakes. A real man, and future captain especially, would admit to his mistakes, ask for forgiveness and promise to be better.
 

Porque

Senior Member
I agree. I've always liked Araujo but the temperament he displayed this season has been dreadful and embarrassing. It's like Xavi's whining and childish behavior rubbed off on the squad.

Bingo. I think this is partly the issue. This toxicity has harboured within the teams mentality and possibly vets from winning teams like Gundagon have seen right through it- hence the early year rift and leaving/not leaving.

Not trying to be Xavi hater no1 or anything but it certainly has an effect if the manager is the first to shift all problems onto everything and everyone elsebfrom the sun to the moon.
 

Co0ter

Senior Member
Like any company or social structure, good leadership starts at the top. Xavi has a lot of influence on the mentality of the players, especially the younger ones. You can't simply ignore that.
 

serghei

Senior Member
Xavi is whiney manchild. That's a fact. Whether it makes influence on the players is anyone's guess. On some could definitely be so.

The good news is they will get the chance to win some league titles and go to CL finals now. More than a measly La Liga title in 2 seasons. Likes of Araujo, De Jong etc. are reaching their prime as players. They have something big in store for the fans.

I am sure Araujo technique is gonna improve a lot under Flick and he is not gonna cause stupid pens and make stupid fouls anymore. He learned his lesson the hard way. Because if he does something even remotely as dumb again, bum status is gonna be firmly achieved.
 
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Messigician

Senior Member
The good news is they will get the chance to win some league titles and go to CL finals now. More than a measly La Liga title in 2 seasons. Likes of Araujo, De Jong etc. are reaching their prime as players. They have something big in store for the fans.

I am sure Araujo technique is gonna improve a lot under Flick and he is not gonna cause stupid pens and make stupid fouls anymore. He learned his lesson the hard way. Because if he does something even remotely as dumb again, bum status is gonna be firmly achieved.
saltier than the Dead Sea @Birdy
 

Co0ter

Senior Member
We have an excellent team and have used more funds in the past 2 seasons than other teams in La Liga have spent in a decade. We have played unattractive and disorganized football, the worst in decades under Xavi. On top of it, we squeaked by last season on many close wins, frequenting 1-0, 2-1 results etc We had a few players in exceptional form I.E. Ter Stegen as well. This season we weren't as lucky. I'm not sure if Flick is the manager to get us playing attractive football again, but what I know is our results weren't great and the footy was trash under Xavi. With our squad and budget since Xavi has taken over, if you can't outshine mid to low table La Liga teams and look anywhere remotely impressive on a regular basis during your wins, you're doing it wrong.

How anyone is shocked about his sacking is perplexing to me. I don't like the way they did it, since it could of definitely been handled better, but it had to happen.
 

Alik

Moderator
We have an excellent team and have used more funds in the past 2 seasons than other teams in La Liga have spent in a decade. We have played unattractive and disorganized football, the worst in decades under Xavi. On top of it, we squeaked by last season on many close wins, frequenting 1-0, 2-1 results etc We had a few players in exceptional form I.E. Ter Stegen as well. This season we weren't as lucky. I'm not sure if Flick is the manager to get us playing attractive football again, but what I know is our results weren't great and the footy was trash under Xavi. With our squad and budget since Xavi has taken over, if you can't outshine mid to low table La Liga teams and look anywhere remotely impressive on a regular basis during your wins, you're doing it wrong.

How anyone is shocked about his sacking is perplexing to me. I don't like the way they did it, since it could of definitely been handled better, but it had to happen.
I don't think anyone is shocked about Xavi's dismissal. The debate is mostly whether Flick is an improvement or not, and what everyone's expectations of him are.
 

Don Juan Laporta Estruch

Well-known member
Will be shocked if Flick agrees to sell Araujo. Selling one of the quickest centre backs in the world when you play a ridiculously high line is nothing short of madness.

Regardless, I think Uruguayo will come back next season and re-estabilish himself as one of the best in the world again after a mediocre showing this season.

Will probably be the most important player in the team under Flick.
 

Gazzznigga

Active member
I don't think anyone is shocked about Xavi's dismissal. The debate is mostly whether Flick is an improvement or not, and what everyone's expectations of him are.
Anyone with half a brain, zero interest in whingeing, petulance and giving stupid excuses for blatant failure, is an upgrade over Xavi
 

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