4 - Ronald Araújo

Gazzznigga

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Its not just the pass.. which Lewa was more at fault for.. it was fact he then compounded it with zero inclination to play offside there.

Has strengths and weaknesses and isnt a starter when all fit but was ok today.
Gibberish as usual. It's easy to pick out those who think playing football is just one slide rule that plays out the same way it appears of FIFA or PES computer games.

I dont have time for posting graphics here because i dont think it is worth the efforts. People will stil believe what they want to. Any one who is objective enough would see that the chance for Danjuma was not because the offside line was breached it was a positioning calculation that Danjuma exploited and it paid off. As a former CB, I know very well that when you have a striker running off your side, on the same line with you while you are backing your goal, with any slight wrong positioning or hesitation on your part is a 50% chance on goal already. Your best bet is either to dam the offside line and try block the that attacker's run or commit a foul before the attacker gets into the box. Araujo hesitated a bit when Garcia lost the tackle and further made a judgement error of picking Danjuma's run marginally late and he lost the advantage at that moment. There is nothing an offside line can do formyou there. If he tried to run out for an offside trap, it would still have been an easy goal for Danjuma. These are very minute and fune lines that happen in split seconds in real life football, not those played with keypads.

If he is being slaughtered for making one error of judgement for goal, that is being erroneously attributed to his messing the offside line up I dont see anyone calling out other CDs this much and so blatantly for worse offside errors that led to goals(e.g. Inigo on Kane's goal Vs Bayern, Inigo on Las Palmass first goal and Curbasi on the 2nd goal in the 2-1 loss to Las Palmas, Kounde messing the offside line vs Real Sociedad in the first leg, Garcia messing up the offside lines vs Athletico Madrid in the CDR, etc. ) Those must be the sacred ones, right?
 
Not in good form. But he showed previously that he can be realy good. Lets waitt till the end of the season.

Wouldn mind keeping him, but for a good offer I would sell. Tah can cover him as 2nd or 3th CB.

Ideal we have Cubarsi, Inigo, Tah, Araujo and Garcia. Garcia also in DM rotation.

But in reality i think we will go for Cubarsi, Inigo, Tah, Garcia and Kounde for CB.

Kounde and Ratiu/Pubill for RB.

Balde and Martin for LB.

CM: Pedri, FDJ, Bernal, Garcia, Gavi, Casado

AM: Olmo, Fermin, Raphinha, Gavi

Wingers: Yamal, Raphinha, Nico, Ferran

CF: Lewa, Ferran
 

Gazzznigga

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When you play for a team that expects to win every match having some great defending moments and last ditch tackles as your MO isn't enough. He is just too inconsistent on the ball and in his positioning.

He needs to be tactically and technically sound. The 11 players are a unit and we can't have any technical or tactical weak links.

Araujo is the kind of defender that would work miracles for a lower level team that relies on deep defending.

But he just isn't technically or tactically on the same level as the rest of the team and it always shows. He is just a bit too slow with his passes, or he misses them sometimes, or sometimes he keeps people onside whilst the rest of the team onside trap, etc.

Amazing **defending** skills. Tactical and technical skills, massive let down.

Inigo and Cubarsi are simply better footballers and that is why they've been preferred. At the end of the day football is a team game, you can be as physically talented as you wish, but it won't matter if you don't know how to work with your teammates.
All you have written above has not pointed in one bit to why and how he was a liability in that match.

The simple ask is "hkw was he a liability in this particukar match" I am stll waiting, bro.

And I hope you wont point to that goal because surely he had some in judgding Danjuma's penultimate movement but the goal came from Lewa turning over a simple pass when his team was in transition.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
I dont think anyone would mind keeping him as has his strengths but the issue comes if he is not seen as a starter and could sign Tah for 'Free' can the funds be better used to plug other gaps in squad.

Its not a burning need to get rid of him as he is shite as he isnt but does have his faults and then it comes to if those faults mean he wont start as first choice what is the better option.
 

Gazzznigga

Active member
What I find interesting in all of these discussions is how some here are already wishing Araujo away while calling for Jonathan Tah.

Well, we will wait and see. In my estimation though, aside from being slightly better on the ball, Tah has nothing on Araujo's abilities.

Sometimes, you dont know what you have got, till its gone.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
No.. folk are saying as an example of what club would be considering would be Tah + fee for Araujo vs Araujo.

Just sell the 'over rated' Cubarsi who has been found out though!

Top stuff.
 

Gazzznigga

Active member
From the lad who spent so much time telling folk how over rated Cubarsi and Yamal are.

Aye aye.. Araujo is better than Cubarsi and you know best.
😆 🤣.....come here Jabroni, I dont have time to drag anything with a known buffoon. If you are attempting to drag me into the abyss of what you and Jamy are into, I dont have the time nor the energy to inddulge a Jabroni in an online brawl. Naah!! I leave you there. You are the champion of dafts. You can continue to wallow in the gutter of buffoonery. I wont partake.

I have the capacity to drive you out of here in ignominy if I mean to but I will rather expend my energies on things more worthwhile.

Jamrock can be a funny dude here and I dont usually agree with his views, but if there was anything he got right, it was boldly announcing and warning everyone that you are a deranged fellow that is better ignored for other simpler pleasures of life
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
Delusion would be thiking Araujo is better than Cubarsi and Yamal was over rated.

All yours chief.

Anyway back to Araujo.

He has rest of season left to prove he has a future as a starter if wants to stay at Barca as that.
 

Gazzznigga

Active member
Araujo is a leader and not a few team-mates have attested publicly at interviews, to his commanding presence in the dressing room. If he combines that with putting a shift on the field of play anytime he plays, I am never going to drag such a player under the bus for one or two errors in a match. For all the flaws being called out, none of his colleagues exceed him in man-marking and aerial prowess.

I watched Puyol right from his debut to his last match for Barca and he was more known for leadership qualities than exceptionally being able to play out from the defence. He was okayish but never the level being asked from CBs from when Guardiola took over. Even Cruyff played more of 3-4-3 and a variant of 3-5-2 with Koeman as the base of the 3 defenders the only with most passing skills.
 

ajnotkeith

Senior Member
What I find interesting in all of these discussions is how some here are already wishing Araujo away while calling for Jonathan Tah.

Well, we will wait and see. In my estimation though, aside from being slightly better on the ball, Tah has nothing on Araujo's abilities.

Sometimes, you dont know what you have got, till its gone.
The whole point is Araujo will end up on the bench. At that point he is too valuable to keep as a bench player and you could do much better by selling him.

The question in the air is how we will replace Inigo, even though he is clearly rock solid, he is old and somewhat injury prone, what is clear however is that we need to upgrade on Araujo.
 

ajnotkeith

Senior Member
Araujo is a leader and not a few team-mates have attested publicly at interviews, to his commanding presence in the dressing room. If he combines that with putting a shift on the field of play anytime he plays, I am never going to drag such a player under the bus for one or two errors in a match. For all the flaws being called out, none of his colleagues exceed him in man-marking and aerial prowess.

I watched Puyol right from his debut to his last match for Barca and he was more known for leadership qualities than exceptionally being able to play out from the defence. He was okayish but never the level being asked from CBs from when Guardiola took over. Even Cruyff played more of 3-4-3 and a variant of 3-5-2 with Koeman as the base of the 3 defenders the only with most passing skills.
Since he's been at the club he has been present for a large number of historic humiliations and been playing in many of them.

Cubarsi and Inigo so far have hardly put a foot wrong and have been absolutely rock-solid in games against top opposition.

We have had enough time to see what Araujo is, and its clear that his weaknesses when he came to the club are the same as those he has now. He hasn't really improved on the ball or tactically, at this point he is what he is, incredible athlete and incredible 1v1 defender but a tactical liability.

Indeed I was also one of those who had really high hopes for him and defended him for years. But he's the same as he was when he was a prospect.
 

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