7 - Ferran Torres

[FinBarcelonafan]

Agreed! Ego and power! Do you think Tebas will get re-elected?

Madridistas must be happy he destroyed Barca but anyone with a brain cell wouldn't be on his side. He will destroy LaLiga.

So yes he will stay haha.

 

[Messigician]

Ppl blaming Tebas because Barca can't follow rules

It's actually hilarious lmfao

Renewing Messi would be good for balancing the books btw

 

[FinBarcelonafan]

Ppl blaming Tebas because Barca can't follow rules

It's actually hilarious lmfao

Renewing Messi would be good for balancing the books btw

Rules which were made for different times.

Yeah that's true. Apparently letting Messi become free agent was huge mistake. Then the signing became complicated.

 

[delancey]

Madridistas must be happy he destroyed Barca but anyone with a brain cell wouldn't be on his side. He will destroy LaLiga.

So yes he will stay haha.

I think you?re right. He may very well get re-elected. More bureaucracy and pointless rules 😅

 

[Messigician]

Rules which were made for different times.

Yeah that's true. Apparently letting Messi become free agent was huge mistake. Then the signing became complicated.

No one in the press asked him why he let Messi's contract expires when he could have renewed him without any problem if he didn't.

Bartomeu asked him but Laporta never replied

Sad!

 

[delancey]

No one in the press asked him why he let Messi's contract expires when he could have renewed him without any problem if he didn't.

Bartomeu asked him but Laporta never replied

Sad!

The club?s financial situation dictated a period of financial austerity.. Extending a player who would have added another 50,000,000 euro per annum to the wage bill made little sense taking into account Tebas? bureaucratic salary cap. We can hardly afford the wages we currently have on the books. Cutting expenditures was a necessary evil. I would have made the same decision had I been in charge. Why? The silver lining is that we are laying the foundation for the next great generation at Barcelona.

For context, We had losses of 481m euro in the 20/21 season. Difficult decisions had to be made. Time to move on Messigician. Haha

 

[khaled_a_d]

Madridistas must be happy he destroyed Barca but anyone with a brain cell wouldn't be on his side. He will destroy LaLiga.

So yes he will stay haha.

They don't like him as he is in direct war with Madrid and loves to mock Perez
That said, CVC deal seems like a vote of confidence for him.
He is a politician who knows how to get votes, playing "fighting the elites" card.

 

[Andresito]

Renewing Messi would be good for balancing the books btw

How?

 

[delancey]

How?

There is no how! 481m in losses in 20/21. Extending Messi would have added an additional 50m+ Per annum in a time which we should be cutting expenditures.

 

[JamDav1982]

The club?s financial situation dictated a period of financial austerity.. Extending a player who would have added another 50,000,000 euro per annum to the wage bill made little sense taking into account Tebas? bureaucratic salary cap. We can hardly afford the wages we currently have on the books. Cutting expenditures was a necessary evil. I would have made the same decision had I been in charge. Why? The silver lining is that we are laying the foundation for the next great generation at Barcelona.

For context, We had losses of 481m euro in the 20/21 season. Difficult decisions had to be made. Time to move on Messigician. Haha

That doesnt add up.

There would not have been another 50m added to 20/21 when Messi had been paid for that season anyway but Messi brings more money in to club that would never have been a 50m lost.

Not the 300m Laporta claimed but more than 50m and particularly when consider would almost certainly have been in next round of CL etc.

Barca could have renewed Messi before contract expired and been positive for finances.

The 481m loss was also due in part to the club deciding to write off some losses thinking they could pin accounts on previous board and start afresh the next season.

 

[delancey]

That doesnt add up.

There would not have been another 50m added to 20/21 when Messi had been paid for that season anyway but Messi brings more money in to club that would never have been a 50m lost.

Not the 300m Laporta claimed but more than 50m and particularly when consider would almost certainly have been in next round of CL etc.

Barca could have renewed Messi before contract expired and been positive for finances.

The 481m loss was also due in part to the club deciding to write off some losses thinking they could pin accounts on previous board and start afresh the next season.

First, we had a 481m euro loss in 20/21. That?s close to half a billion euro in a single fiscal year. Extending a 34 year old player on astronomical wages would have been irresponsible. In addition, had we extended Messi, we would have been way beyond the limit of the salary cap, which is a reality we must adapt to. In addition, extending Messi would have made it more difficult to bring in new players, such as Aguero, Depay, Garcia, and now Torres, while also extending important contracts (Pedri, Fati). It is what it is!


Second, 50,000,000+ euro per annum would have been added onto 2022 expenditures, and beyond. Perhaps a chunk of it would have been added onto 2021, depending on when the fiscal year ends? My point still stands. That is, we should be lowering our expenditures now, in order to adapt to the economic realities of the pandemic and the detrimental effects on our financial results.

Third, please do share how Messi adds additional revenue to the club during a covid pandemic? After all, the economic times we are currently facing should factor into the decision making at the club. Especially in a period of record losses of 481m euro.

 

[JamDav1982]

The loss in 2021 was due to a lot of factors...including covid and losses being taken which would have been less of issue going forward.

You are wrong on it adding to 20/21 accounts and another 50m.

While Messi would cover that 50m anyway this season and beyond. You act like Messi brings nothing financially to the club.

The issue would be renewing a 34 year old Messi for financial reasons ahead of sporting ones when teams needs rebuilt.

 

[delancey]

The loss in 2021 was due to a lot of factors...including covid and losses being taken which would have been less of issue going forward.

You are wrong on it adding to 20/21 accounts and another 50m.

While Messi would cover that 50m anyway this season and beyond. You act like Messi brings nothing financially to the club.

The issue would be renewing a 34 year old Messi for financial reasons ahead of sporting ones when teams needs rebuilt.

Our losses in 20/21 forced our hand. In fact, a 112m euro loss has already been forecasted for 2022. 50m+ more would therefore be allocated to forecasted loss in 2022 if we had extended Messi?s contract. . Again, during a time in which we should be investing in the new generation of the club.

Also, I?m unaware when Barcelona?s fiscal year ends. It is possible that a chunk of his salary from the extension would have been added onto the books of 2021! If not, my point still stands. Adding Messi?s new salary to the books would have increased our wage expenditures in relation to income, making it more difficult to comply with La Liga?s financial fair play regulations, while also adding an additional 50m+ euro to our net loss in 2022. Again, the budgeted loss already stands at 112m euro, and may increase due to not having qualified for the Champion?s League.

I am not so sure we would have qualified for the champion?s league had Messi stayed. It?s by no means a guarantee. Then the question becomes, how else does he generate guaranteed revenue during a pandemic?

 

[JamDav1982]

Our losses in 20/21 forced our hand. In fact, a 112m euro loss has already been forecasted for 2022. 50m+ more would therefore be allocated to forecasted loss in 2022 if we had extended Messi?s contract. . Again, during a time in which we should be investing in the new generation of the club.

Also, I?m unaware when Barcelona?s fiscal year ends. It is possible that a chunk of his salary from the extension would have been added onto the books of 2021! If not, my point still stands. Adding Messi?s new salary to the books would have increased our wage expenditures in relation to income, making it more difficult to comply with La Liga?s financial fair play regulations, while also adding an additional 50m+ euro to our net loss in 2022.

I am not so sure we would have qualified for the champion?s league had Messi stayed. It?s by no means a guarantee. Then the question becomes, how else does he generate guaranteed revenue during a pandemic?

Barca could have renewed Messi and it would not have been a hit financially this season or coming ones and certainly nowhere near 50m.

Barca most likely qualify for CL. Fans in stadium. Sponsorship etc.

The 20/21 losses didnt force Barcas hand. They could have renewed him regardless and it would not have added to those losses.

Again you go with idea that having Messi generates no additonal income for the club when it does.

 

[delancey]

Barca could have renewed Messi and it would not have been a hit financially this season or coming ones.

Barca most likely qualify for CL. Fans in stadium. Sponsorship etc.

The 20/21 losses didnt force Barcas hand. They could have renewed him regardless and it would not have added to those losses.

Of course there would have been a hit. A 50,000,000 euro hit per annum. It?s not about whether we could have extended Messi?s contract; it?s about it being blatantly irresponsible to do so. Add the salary cap into the equation with an additional 50,000,000 salary expenditure. We can hardly manage as it stands right now.