7 - Philippe Coutinho - V1

Messigician

Senior Member
Says PSG are planning to take revenge on Barça for buying Frenkie de Jong. There is a total war between the two clubs and the Parisian club will focus their efforts on bringing Philippe Coutinho to Paris. [rmc]

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Hahahahahaha PSG the gift that keeps on givjng
 

Raketa10

Senior Member
Coutinho is going nowhere, he is a world class player! The amount of hypocrites in this forum is unbelievable. We all wanted him here, he did everything in his power to come here, not to mention he was fantastic in the second half of last season (our second best player) and now after bad first half of the season 50% of people here want him out.

You people are awful! You did the same thing to Mats and than to Dembele, and now you just changed the thread. What a bunch of morons! I have no doubt that you will do the same to De Jong if he won't be on the world class level during his first 10 games here. The worst fan base I have ever seen! :puke::puke::puke::puke:
 
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vlad

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Coutinho is going nowhere, he is a world class player! The amount of hypocrites in this forum is unbelievable. We all wanted him here, he did everything in his power to come here, not to mention he was fantastic in the second half of last season (our second best player) and now after bad first half of the season 50% of people here want him out.

You people are awful! You did the same thing to Mats and than to Dembele, and now you just changed the thread. What a bunch of morons! I have no doubt that you will do the same to De Jong if he won't be on the world class level during his first 10 games here. The worst fan base I have ever seen! :puke::puke::puke::puke:

Barca online fans are just the same as any other top team online fans.

I just have a problem with fans that are jumping on a bandwagon train whenever they want and jump off in the same manner. So we have to read here how "with this and guy we are gonna rule the football world again" then when this guy is here and things does not work out as expected, what they do then is jump on another wagon and keep with their mantra, at worst shit on the same player that you worshiped. Oh, how i dont like those:D


However, coutinho came at big price, as a proven player, the guy that you didnt need to wait for to start to perform. But he is not doing that, and why, i dont know few thungs could be, valverde's lack of functional system, fact most of the barca matches through the season are not so challengeable, like matches were at liverpool, fight for every point, could be the lack of true supporters on stadium, total difference then how it was on anfield, they are proffessionals, but in the end, good atmosphere on home ground could meam difference in performance, and thats what barca lacks, and sadly it will never have it again


Edit: i dont know how much he is earning now, but i supose its at least double then it was at lpool, so probably he cant earn more then he is earning now, just less, at lpool he needed to fight if he wanted to earn more, he jzst came here, got best salary, he is probabky on top what he could achieve from financial perspective... Maybe this is the reason of decline also, or why he isnt showing things from while he was in lpool if it is, its not going to be better

Put it like this, you work hard through your pro career in challengeable environment then you come on top, earning most what you can and enviroment is a lot less challengeable, what keeps you going and still motivated
 
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El Barcelona

Well-known member
I think most people are just laughing and tacking the piss about it because we all know this is not gonna happen. They barely could buy De Jong so I don't think they can splash another +140 Mil for another 'attacking' player like coutinho when they clearly need a central midfielder.
[MENTION=20770]Raketa10[/MENTION]: In what name did they changed the thread? Must missed that.
 

George_Costanza

Active member
Coutinho is going nowhere, he is a world class player! The amount of hypocrites in this forum is unbelievable. We all wanted him here, he did everything in his power to come here, not to mention he was fantastic in the second half of last season (our second best player) and now after bad first half of the season 50% of people here want him out.

You people are awful! You did the same thing to Mats and than to Dembele, and now you just changed the thread. What a bunch of morons! I have no doubt that you will do the same to De Jong if he won't be on the world class level during his first 10 games here. The worst fan base I have ever seen! :puke::puke::puke::puke:

I agree he is world-class, but not everyone wanted him here. I had a never-ending argument with Jamdav about Coutinho's price tag and he was the wrong type of player profile suitable for us, just like I'm having the same argument regarding Rabiot with Jamdav 2.0.

Coutinho as a world-class player and have previous La Liga experience suppose to come and have an immediate impact and help carry the team with Messi. No one should demand this from MATS or Dembele.
 

Potroh

New member
I just have a problem with fans that are jumping on a bandwagon train whenever they want and jump off in the same manner. So we have to read here how "with this and guy we are gonna rule the football world again" then when this guy is here and things does not work out as expected, what they do then is jump on another wagon and keep with their mantra, at worst shit on the same player that you worshiped. Oh, how i dont like those:D

Well said.
Just imagine what the enthusiastic but superficially thinking guys would have said if Griezmann's signing would have come through...
As he is a great player with almost nothing that fits for Barca's profile, he would have been the same kind of failure here, not to mention Veratti, for whom the entire forum used to cry for.
Verratti is horrible at PSG and hardly ever plays as a starter...

But good old Valverde cannot complain, because his type of favorites have made it to Barca.
The strong and ever fighting old "machos" like Paulinho, Vidal and now Boateng all represent his type of dreams (God forbid) but you can just hope EV doesn't remain the teams manager for too long, because in that case the known and traditional Barca advantages and style will be killed for quite some time...
 

Arizona Scott

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...Coutinho as a world-class player and have previous La Liga experience suppose to come and have an immediate impact and help carry the team with Messi. No one should demand this from MATS or Dembele.

He did help win the double last year (8 goals and 5 assists in 18 spring league matches, what we were hoping from him), of course he couldn't play in the CL under last year's rules. I also just watched the eibar game, he was impactful. He was involved effectively in most attacks, working well with Suarez and Messi, and probably earned a penalty that wasn't called. I agree he is struggling mightyly this year but I agree with Raketa the blame is over the top. More than likely never going to be worth the price--but the price was between Liverpool and Barca, and he did what he could to be professional but advocate for the switch with Liverpool fighting it all the way. He has good spells mostly ignored here. I don't think he is far off being a valuable contributor--get a few shots to go his way (that are close) and relaxing a bit (better decisions, forcing it less) and he will help win trophies. Fans should be supportive, that is best for the player and club.

Well said.
Just imagine what the enthusiastic but superficially thinking guys would have said if Griezmann's signing would have come through...
As he is a great player with almost nothing that fits for Barca's profile, he would have been the same kind of failure here, not to mention Veratti, for whom the entire forum used to cry for.
Verratti is horrible at PSG and hardly ever plays as a starter...
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Griezmann I am 90% sure would not fail. Dude is good with 1 touches, sees the field, moves. I think he would have immediate chemistry with Leo and Suarez, faster integration than Dembele or Coutinho. Annoying after goals and off the pitch, but a great, team-oriented, player on it. Could adapt anywhere. Verratti might have fallen flat here, that may have been a good big purchase that PSG thankfully kept us from.
 

Newcomer

New member
Well said.
Just imagine what the enthusiastic but superficially thinking guys would have said if Griezmann's signing would have come through...
As he is a great player with almost nothing that fits for Barca's profile, he would have been the same kind of failure here, not to mention Veratti, for whom the entire forum used to cry for.
Verratti is horrible at PSG and hardly ever plays as a starter...

But good old Valverde cannot complain, because his type of favorites have made it to Barca.
The strong and ever fighting old "machos" like Paulinho, Vidal and now Boateng all represent his type of dreams (God forbid) but you can just hope EV doesn't remain the teams manager for too long, because in that case the known and traditional Barca advantages and style will be killed for quite some time...
Wait ! What did i just read about Verratti ?

There are 2 essential players at PSG and they are Neymar and Verratti.
Verratti had a surgery during summer break and took time to come back and is injured again (someone blocked his ankle).

With those 2 out, PSG is a very ordinary side and will suffer against United.

Just check the difference Verratti made for PSG against Liverpool.
 
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Potroh

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Griezmann I am 90% sure would not fail. Dude is good with 1 touches, sees the field, moves. I think he would have immediate chemistry with Leo and Suarez, faster integration than Dembele or Coutinho. Annoying after goals and off the pitch, but a great, team-oriented, player on it. Could adapt anywhere.

He could indeed adapt to most teams, because he is a great player.
But in Barca, where the possession based play is prominent, he would have become the 2nd Coutinho NOT to be able braking the walls in front.
He is usually looks good at AM because of the defense-oriented play with several counter-attacks.
Same for the NT of France, where he shown little in Russia, apart from his penalties.
As in many ways he is a similar type to Coutinho, he could have been successful in Barca only if a different system were developed.

France won the WC because of other players and Griezmann was quite shadowy, almost as bad as Giroud was.
Even Fekir was more noticeable when played as a substitute and because Dembele was in bad form, that saved both their places...

There are 2 essential players at PSG and they are Neymar and Verratti.

And Cavani and MBappe and Alves and Marquinous and the rest of them?
Yes Verratti was injured for a long period but even before that he was rather average at PSG, even before the WC.
He is a very good player but far from being the 100 million wonder that many Barca fans dreamed about.

He is a typical "one-year-wonder-type" but I bet that Arthur is already much much better than Verratti...
 

Newcomer

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Cavani has been shit for 1 year at least. He rarely touch the ball in a game. He is a finisher and is not involved in the build up. His big problem is he seems not to be able to do a simple first touch, a simple pass. And his finishing has been very unreliable.

Alves has been out for a 6 months injury. Still technically confortable but he has no legs anymore. Liability as a full back since he can't defend anymore.

Marquinhos was very contested among PSG fans, mostly because his pair with Thiago Silva is not that good. Individually, they are the best of our CB but the pair is less good than when one of them played with Kimpembe (who has less talent). This year, he has been very satisfying playing in midfield for the team.

Mbappé is still young and has to develop a lot. He scores goal and his involved in decisive actions but he has been disappointing in CL and not enough impact during the full 90 minutes.

Verratti has never been a one season wonder. He is the best PSG midfielder since the time we got him in fact. The only (big) problem is his list of injuries, his habit to get carded and the fact he will not shoot even in front of the goal with no keeper.
I would say that the three most important players of PSG are Neymar, Verratti and Thiago Silva. Then comes Mbappé.

Arthur is a very good player and probably most cost effective that would have been Verra since you got him for only à fraction of what Verratti is worth.
 
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Joan

Well-known member
Of course he's one of your most important players as he is (bar Rabiot) the only true CM you have.
 

Newcomer

New member
Of course he's one of your most important players as he is (bar Rabiot) the only true CM you have.

Well, i did say he is our best midfielder since the time we got him. The fact he is still there while all the other have been offloaded is a testimony he has not been horrible like the other guy said. He is the only one that has convinced.
Against Liverpool, he bossed their midfield alone against their three guys. He should have seen red for a tackle though
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And to flatter Barça, i would say that they have only been interested in good players at PSG : Silva, Neymar, Mbappé, Verratti, Marquinhos. It is a rather good list talent wise.
 
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