8 - Pedri

[Catta]

Thiago
Verratti
De Bruyne is the only player I would take from that list

 

[JamDav1982]

I already explained in the pages before why I think he will not be as good here.

No you used mental gymnastics to change argument once Gundogan signed for Barca is the reality.

 

[JamDav1982]

Thiago
Verratti
De Bruyne is the only player I would take from that list

Exactly... buffoonery that list.

 

[ajnotkeith]

I already explained in the pages before why I think he will not be as good here.

Lets run with your argument - as you said, you've described Gundogan as world class previously, said he is of very high class and amongst the best midfielders in the world, yet you think the circumstances are so terrible here he's gonna go from world class to just a decent player?

If that consideration was made for Gundogan why is it not made for Pedri when you nail him for not having enough European resume?

 

[JamDav1982]

Serghie gone from arguing that you need top quality midfielders like Gundogan to win the CL...

Barca then sign Gundogan....

Argument changes to.. Gundogan is not one of top mids around and had it easy with those players around him at city... he is old, slow and a year away from Saudi.

But but you lot 'dont understand the nuances' of my argument.. 'heres what I really meant'.

Constant mental gymnastics.. from 'poor Xavi doesnt have players like Gundogan'....to..'you lot over rate Gundo and poor Xavi'

 

[serghei]

That list is from the past .

A year ago Liverpool played in CL final and was top 3 in the world. Fast forward 12 months and they didn't even make top 4 in England. As I explained before, things evolve and change in football, pretty quickly sometimes.

Too much to understand for some it seems, I'm out before the discussion gets too dumb.

 

[Iniesta Ultra]

never seen a troll fed so much

 

[ajnotkeith]

Serghie gone from arguing that you need top quality midfielders like Gundogan to win the CL...

Barca then sign Gundogan....

Argument changes to.. Gundogan is not one of top mids around and had it easy with those players around him at city... he is old, slow and a year away from Saudi.

But but you lot 'dont understand the nuances' of my argument.. 'heres what I really meant.

It's in black and white there - to dominate games and win the CL, you need midfielders of very high class such as Gundogan.

Not sure how he can twist his words to claim he meant something else.

 

[ajnotkeith]

That list is from the past .

A year ago Liverpool played in CL final and was top 3 in the world. Fast forward 12 months and they didn't even make top 4 in England. As I explained before, things evolve and change in football, pretty quickly sometimes.

Too much to understand for some it seems, I'm out before the discussion gets too dumb.

Nothing changed from then until now relating Gundogan. If anything, his estimation only increased because he had a phenomenal year at City last season. There's no reason your opinion would have changed.

The actual explanation is that as soon as it became clear he was coming to Barca that's when your opinion changed.

 

[JamDav1982]

That list is from the past .

A year ago Liverpool played in CL final and was top 3 in the world. Fast forward 12 months and they didn't even make top 4 in England. As I explained before, things evolve and change in football, pretty quickly sometimes.

Too much to understand for some it seems, I'm out before the discussion gets too dumb.

Nah you just make shite up as you go.

Been exposed plenty of times and this is latest example.

The flip on Gundo is sensational level of mental gymnastics.

 

[vegitot]

Xavi: ❝Pedri takes care of himself. He has worked over the summer to gain muscle mass, but his injury can be due to the heat, fatigue... We try our best to avoid muscle injuries❞

Sad.

 

[Gnidrologist]

Sad panda is sad.

 

[vegitot]

Must be the first Panda to hibernate

 

[ajnotkeith]

Xavi: ❝Pedri takes care of himself. He has worked over the summer to gain muscle mass, but his injury can be due to the heat, fatigue... We try our best to avoid muscle injuries❞

Sad.

I dont think Xavi understands what causes injuries if this is his analysis of the situation.
Gaining muscle mass doesn't prevent injury or really have any bearing on it. If anything, it is the more muscular players who are more injury-prone (higher explosiveness, force produced, therefore more potential damage to the muscle).


As other people have noted players like Busquets who are thin as a rake rarely get injured.

 

[Porque]

Xavi: ❝Pedri takes care of himself. He has worked over the summer to gain muscle mass, but his injury can be due to the heat, fatigue... We try our best to avoid muscle injuries❞

Sad.

I don't think Xavi is going to go into the diagnosis in the presser.

But a few points.

Who decided on this summer work?
-Pedri himself?
-A club set structured plan?
-Pedri with a PT?
-a PT authorized and agreed with the club?

We're talking about multimillion euro athletes here.

Any post season / pre pre season fitness plan and goals of a player should be authorized by the club.

Does extra muscle mass benefit the style of play and the clubs fitness targets?

Do the training exercises coincide with the pre-season schedule and plans, or could it cause extra stress for certain muscle groups and tendons.

Just a small point, but you really get the feeling that the British football clubs are light-years away.