Iniesta Ultra
Senior Member
I was traveling for 17 hours Sunday so missed the match and can't be bothered to watch replay.
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I was traveling for 17 hours Sunday so missed the match and can't be bothered to watch replay.
jamrock
Senior Member
Now that's just making stuff up bro.
Unless you believe he was the sole reasons for the bad run, that's just not true.
JamDav1982
Senior Member
Aye and you will blame him and ignore anyone else who fails also.
Players who are 'better than FDJ not expected to step up' when chips down?
Numpty logic.
Too funny.
With Casado league would be out of reach anyway.
With Gavi... awful when chips up or down.
JamDav1982
Senior Member
100%.
As soon as FDJ fit he took over and was clearly the better player and helped turn back the league season.
MonteCuler
Well-known member
He cost us the points against Celta, fucked up massively against Atletico and had few very bad performances in the meanwhile
I also had the impression that he slowly regressed as season went on, which is maybe expected too
Overall it's excellent debut season but he wasn't flawless, there's a reason FDJ came back. It wouldn't have happened if Casado continued with same level of performances, Flick doesn't just drop players like that.
serghei
Senior Member
No, I don't blame him, quite normal for a rookie like him to alternate errors with good stuff. But De Jong is simply a better player at this moment.
De Jong has elite ability in some areas. He's an excellent ball carrier for example. When you play against De Jong, you need to be worried about him traveling with the ball vertically whenever unpressed. Movement. One touch passing. Simply a top player when fit.
Flick Ball is tailored to get the best out of De jong precisely due to us playing with an offensive mentality no matter what.
jamrock
Senior Member
See how many times the name casado pops up here, that's not to include the actual match chats and his trend.
Never has the Dutch string together so many excellent performances concurrently.
JamDav1982
Senior Member
Haha ffs.. so it is 'Barcaforum MOTM'... top stuff.
How many 'big games was he MOTM'?
Same place likes of Puig used to get it or folk massively over rate Gavi having one decent moment.
FDJ is levels better than Casado in second half of this season than he was in first..and FDJ has had better seasons.
Exposing how little clue you have.
Same logic that had you claiming 'Flick will never start FDJ ahead of Casado or Gavi again'
ajnotkeith
Senior Member
I think FDJ has been consistently good for some time now. His main stumbling block has been knocks and injuries that have disrupted his rhythm, but since Xavi took over, he has been one of the important players of the team throughout.
The hate campaign against him is starting to lack basis in reality.
The hate campaign against him is starting to lack basis in reality.
serghei
Senior Member
I think De Jong suffers when we play with a low block and is tasked with the defensive routine of his position. He tends to make defensive errors when he has to adapt to a defense-first setup. When he can play creatively on the front foot, he's one of the best DMs around.
JamDav1982
Senior Member
FDJ was levels and levels above this seasons Casado the seasons Barca had under Koeman and Xavis league win.
Been better this season also..hence why Flick prefers him.
JamDav1982
Senior Member
What type of teams is that?
Atletico? Getafe?
Rarely get teams that play like that now.
serghei
Senior Member
Even Barca under more conservative managers used to play like that. Under Xavi, under EV at times... this Flick stage is quite different and to De Jong's benefits.
I think many teams usually switch to a defensive mindset when in leads. Arsenal under Arteta also. even Liverpool imo does this often.
JamDav1982
Senior Member
FDJ was brilliant under Xavi in that league win season.
Xavi absolutely loved him.
He was 2nd to Busquets for tackles/assist that season also.
ajnotkeith
Senior Member
In a similar way, the only real weakness I see in him is on the defensive side, sometimes his marking can be sloppy and he can lack tenacity defensively. He is still fine defensively especially considering his physical condition is very good but that is where I would say he is weakest as a player.
His offensive and possession side is top-level. The main criticism there is sometimes he doesn't release quick enough, but everything considered, he is an elite midfielder in his physical prime.
His spot should be very safe in this team.
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