9 - Luis Suárez - v1

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footyfan

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What other games would there be to consider ? ^^



Nope, it was 2 points with one game in hand for barça, so virtually 5 points... Zidane made it waaaaay worse until we screwed up.

When you want to figure who's the best player of the season, you don't just consider a specific subgroup of games, you have to look at the entire season.

Edit: Just compared Zidane and Benitez's records. Both have had exactly 18 Lliga games so far this season - 15-2-1 for Zidane and 11-4-3 for Benitez. Since Zidane took over, Real actually have the best record in Lliga.
 
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Jamie Cal

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So easy to pin it on Benitez. Man was never gonna be given a fair go and was lumped with all the blame. Look at their game against Villarreal in December where they lost 1-0; Bale puts 3 or 4 perfect crosses for Benz to miss sitter after sitter, Ronaldo too, yet Benitez and 'tactics' get the blame.

2 points behind a Barca in perfect form with a Clasico still to play when sacked.

Key player having a horrible season up to this point, Bale constantly in-and-out, and even Benz' whole off the field issues. We can also point to Rafa being the man to bed Casemiro and clearly wanting to play him for the first Clasico that killed any chance Real had.

And even then, people give Zidane the benefit of the doubt on bad results/performances because he's only in the door - wasn't Rafa only in the door? Zidane's teams looked awful against teams like Las Palmas and Granada over 2 months into his reign.


Looking at Rafa's results now, how many were really bad? Losing to Sevilla and Villarreal away is no shame. Drawing with Valencia away, while a bad team, is no shame either. A draw against Atleti away where Real were the better team for most of the game is no shame. Losing to us hurt obviously but we were in perfect order then.

So what's left? Drawing with Sporting away the first day is bad, true, but Zidane drew with Betis away in his 2nd game who had the worst home record in the league, do people level that at him? Malaga at home 0-0 was a bit bad, but Real were robbed that game, decision after decision, and a clear goal in the 90th minute.

I get that we're talking about Real Madrid, a massive club, but can you really tell me there was that much wrong results wise? Are we gonna pin the Copa on Rafa too?


Miss me with that 'Rafa was Barca's best friend' chatter.
 

footyfan

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So easy to pin it on Benitez. Man was never gonna be given a fair go and was lumped with all the blame. Look at their game against Villarreal in December where they lost 1-0; Bale puts 3 or 4 perfect crosses for Benz to miss sitter after sitter, Ronaldo too, yet Benitez and 'tactics' get the blame.

2 points behind a Barca in perfect form with a Clasico still to play when sacked.

Key player having a horrible season up to this point, Bale constantly in-and-out, and even Benz' whole off the field issues. We can also point to Rafa being the man to bed Casemiro and clearly wanting to play him for the first Clasico that killed any chance Real had.

And even then, people give Zidane the benefit of the doubt on bad results/performances because he's only in the door - wasn't Rafa only in the door? Zidane's teams looked awful against teams like Las Palmas and Granada over 2 months into his reign.


Looking at Rafa's results now, how many were really bad? Losing to Sevilla and Villarreal away is no shame. Drawing with Valencia away, while a bad team, is no shame either. A draw against Atleti away where Real were the better team for most of the game is no shame. Losing to us hurt obviously but we were in perfect order then.

So what's left? Drawing with Sporting away the first day is bad, true, but Zidane drew with Betis away in his 2nd game who had the worst home record in the league, do people level that at him? Malaga at home 0-0 was a bit bad, but Real were robbed that game, decision after decision, and a clear goal in the 90th minute.

I get that we're talking about Real Madrid, a massive club, but can you really tell me there was that much wrong results wise? Are we gonna pin the Copa on Rafa too?


Miss me with that 'Rafa was Barca's best friend' chatter.

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Jamie Cal

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Yeah, we covered that Casemiro missed the Clasico and your forwards joking in the Villarreal game.

g-o-a-l.com/en-ie/match/villarreal-vs-real-madrid/2086404/report?ICID=MP_MS_5
20 shots, 5 from outside the box...only 1 on target.


Your forwards, particularly Ronaldo are having a better season and the club actually want Zizou to fail. Kroos still looks meh, Hamez is worse, Kova is MIA, Even Bale's great season started a few games before Rafa ended because he was fit for once or not minding himself for Wales. Has anyone's performances for RM around the pitch improved under Zizou? Ramos at a push.

Hardly any of Rafa's results were dreadful or at least fully to pin on him. We're top of the league because our players have performed, end of.



Edit: why is G-o-a-l blocked out? Sorry if I'm breaking rules.
 

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Suárez 1st goal vs. Espanyol

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Suárez 2nd goal vs. Espanyol

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