9 - Luis Suárez - v1

[gingerless]

i don't think suarez is racist. most of these things just water down to people being racially insensitive, not being genuinely racist. and this is only if he actually did say it to evra.

frankly, i'm sick and tired of people accusing others of being racist when it's obvious that they just have no idea what it's like to be a victim of racism and are, you guessed it, RACIALLY INSENSITIVE. these kind of things do have to be punished though, one way or another it discourages racism regardless of intentions.

now let's all have a nice cup of shut the fuck up and talk more football.

 

[La Furia]

because if someone is racially abused, they react.

and Evra reacted like a motherfucker.

This is the same sort of logic that allowed newspapers to slander Materazzi with the racism accusations. Woobie brought it up before, and if anything we should have learned from the Materazzi incident the danger of jumping to the conclusion and risking that we trivialize the serious issue of racism in football. There's a lot of things he could have said to piss Evra off, and Evra has overreacted before, and has at least in two instances made a high profile accusation of racism that was never proven.

It's very possible that Suarez said something racist, I honestly wouldn't put it below him - remember he was once accused of making fun of Jonathan Reis' drug addiction issues in order to provoke the troubled player, he plays on the edge of morality at all times and does cross it, I hope he did not lower himself to racism to prove his point but only evidence will be able to show that.

Until then, you are accusing a player you hate to fit your own agenda.

 

[yusuf]

suarez>>>evra
so there is no point debating the situation

 

[Raed]

This is the same sort of logic that allowed newspapers to slander Materazzi with the racism accusations. Woobie brought it up before, and if anything we should have learned from the Materazzi incident the danger of jumping to the conclusion and risking that we trivialize the serious issue of racism in football. There's a lot of things he could have said to piss Evra off, and Evra has overreacted before, and has at least in two instances made a high profile accusation of racism that was never proven.

It's very possible that Suarez said something racist, I honestly wouldn't put it below him - remember he was once accused of making fun of Jonathan Reis' drug addiction issues in order to provoke the troubled player, he plays on the edge of morality at all times and does cross it, I hope he did not lower himself to racism to prove his point but only evidence will be able to show that.

Until then, you are accusing a player you hate to fit your own agenda.

Ditto.

 

[estranged]

even if he said something to Evra, disgraceful as it may be it doesn't necessarily make him a racist, hes a cunt yes but we all knew that. given his cuntish and Machiavellian mentality he most probably said to annoys Evra and draw a reaction from him.

 

[AnfieldEd]

This is the same sort of logic that allowed newspapers to slander Materazzi with the racism accusations. Woobie brought it up before, and if anything we should have learned from the Materazzi incident the danger of jumping to the conclusion and risking that we trivialize the serious issue of racism in football. There's a lot of things he could have said to piss Evra off, and Evra has overreacted before, and has at least in two instances made a high profile accusation of racism that was never proven.

It's very possible that Suarez said something racist, I honestly wouldn't put it below him - remember he was once accused of making fun of Jonathan Reis' drug addiction issues in order to provoke the troubled player, he plays on the edge of morality at all times and does cross it, I hope he did not lower himself to racism to prove his point but only evidence will be able to show that.

Until then, you are accusing a player you hate to fit your own agenda.

Absolutely spot on. If Suarez is proved to have made racial remarks, I'd be the first one to criticise him for it and getting a deserved ban.

 

[Hatem Ben Arfa]

what other 2 instances has Evra made accusations of racism?

1. Chelsea groundsman - just because FA couldn't prove it doesn't mean it didn't happen. Only the people who were there know what was said. The way Evra reacted and flipped out would lend credence to his claims.

2. what is this other 2nd accusation of racism evra has made. Someone needs to show me. Otherwise people are just making up horse poo because they dislike a player who led a player revolt because his pal Anelka got sent home for not respecting the manager.


@Worms, your opinions on this issue holds no water with anyone. You are wind up merchant that defends racism at every opportunity you can, while making crass inflamatory statments about the subject too. The more you keep up with it, the sooner you will be gone from this Barca forum given the warnings you have recieved from the moderator.

 

[Miggy]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2006/mar/01/newsstory.sport4

 

[Hatem Ben Arfa]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2006/mar/01/newsstory.sport4

OMG do you even read the article!

EVRA MADE NO ACCUSATIONS OF RACISM AGAINST FINNAN! NONE!

This is obviously an example of people that are hating on Evra that they just read and see what they want to see. I don't like Evra but people need to stop perpetuating complete lies about him to fit their argument against him to discredit his claims.

"Evra, however, was unaware of any racist taunts. The Senegal-born Frenchman, a £5.5m signing from Monaco in January, has not raised any complaints although he is aware of the allegations."

 

[Barcafan 2304]

Thing is, all the shots/replays i have seen of it are inconclusive so we may never know what happened. One player's word against anothers.

 

[Miggy]

OMG do you even read the article!

EVRA MADE NO ACCUSATIONS OF RACISM AGAINST FINNAN! NONE!

This is obviously an example of people that are hating on Evra that they just read and see what they want to see. I don't like Evra but people need to stop perpetuating complete lies about him to fit their argument against him to discredit his claims.

"Evra, however, was unaware of any racist taunts. The Senegal-born Frenchman, a £5.5m signing from Monaco in January, has not raised any complaints although he is aware of the allegations."

 

[Hatem Ben Arfa]

yeah you can try and play it off like were on the wind up. However it is clear that YOU WERE NOT. It is clear that you have embarassed yourself and shown you inability to read more than 2 paragraphs of an article, let alone the whole thing to understand the facts of a situation. You have just perpetuated a LIE to try and suit your argument against Evra's claims.

Nice try, trying not to look foolish by pretending that you were trolling though. You are not fooling anyone though.

 

[Miggy]

 

[Hatem Ben Arfa]

yeah, you are just making yourself even worse, trying to mask your damaged ego. You made a mistake, it's ok to admit that. Sorry if I came down on you hard that you had to pretend your ignorance was a trolling wind up tactic.

we all make mistakes.

 

[Miggy]