9 - Robert Lewandowski

Andresito

Senior Member
Staff member
but my point was that one Morata goal doesnt mean he is Lewandowski and one Lewandowski goal doesnt mean he is Messi :)
Definitely agree with your point. Lewy probably best CF in the world currently.

Although Morata is stylistically closer to Lewy than Lewy is to Messi ;) a bit of a far fetched comparison.
 

jamrock

Senior Member
2X CL winner
E.L winner
U 17 WC champion.

European Champion at every level for Spain.

Holy shit,

that shaves off at least half a point.

Lewa is only 0.20 steps ahead.


Are you freaking kidding me right now with this dude's YouTube skills.
 

Andresito

Senior Member
Staff member
2X CL winner
E.L winner
U 17 WC champion.

European Champion at every level for Spain.

Holy shit,

that shaves off at least half a point.

Lewa is only 0.20 steps ahead.


Are you freaking kidding me right now with this dude's YouTube skills.
Are you doing your best to argue with somebody or were you just too retarded to understand my point?
 

jamrock

Senior Member
Are you doing your best to argue with somebody or were you just too retarded to understand my point?

No you're just too regarded to not know a joke when you see one.

Lets goo ahead a change this freaking, to FUCKING idiot 😂 😂 😂.

A lot better for the BIG L you just gave yourself.

I wasn't even thinking about you when I made the post.

I was messing with temp, who is actually smart enough to know it was clearly a joke.

Never come at be dude, you are incapable of that challenge as I've told you multiple times and you just stepped in to a whole bunch of shit,trying to do so, just sit on a corner whenever you see me post.

I bat 90's here consistently! Deal with it.

Wasn't even thinking about dude 😅.
 
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Maradona37

Well-known member
He is a good dribbler but to be fair YouTube videos don't prove anything - that's a rookie mistake. He's been playing at the very top level in top leagues for almost 15 years. You can find any player doing things here and there in that time. I can find Messi headed goals but it doesn't make him as good a header as Ronaldo, does it?

All he does in that video is turn nicely and then run at pace for a few strides and finish. Come on mate...

Plus your claim of Lewa being 'the most complete centre forward ever'.

As I and a few others have said, Lewa is a brilliant striker and one of the best of the last 30 years, but all the 'Lewa GOAT' posters who put down other great strikers put us off him. It's truly bizarre too because outside of a few odd posters on this forum nobody thinks of Lewa as one of the best players of all time, or better than R9 etc.

But I know there's a few Polish posters here (like you) and Temp/Rass seem to have a man crush on him, so that likely accounts for a lot of the hyperbole.
 
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Maradona37

Well-known member
That doesn't say much.

It's like saying Ronaldo and Lewandowski have missed the most big chances in Europe so they aren't great goalscorers.

It's all about the volume. Lewandowski makes the most dangerous runs in the final third which is why he'll always be up there in these statistics. It is about how often he's able to beat the defensive line and time his runs.

Like I said, the best goalscorers often top the list for most chances missed. It's a volume game. One of his best qualities.
That's what makes the truly special players (ie greatest of all time) so special - they're not about volume, like Lewa and Ronaldo are.

You like volume, I don't - to me if you need 10 chances to score one goal then you're simply a law of averages type and not that impressive. Not taking into account the impressive nature of positioning to get all those chances in the first place.

Lewa and Ronaldo miss a lot of easy chances and have a low shot conversion rate. Clearly Messi, R9, Romario, Van Basten, Muller etc were better finishers (not necessarily goalscorers) than them.
 

Maradona37

Well-known member
His best dribble and besides initial start he only went around defenders not through them. This wouldn't even make Messi's top 300 dribbles. Even turdle had better dribbles at PSG.

Sad how easily amused people are.
Yeah that's very underwhelming as a 'dribbling goal'. Nice but hardly something out of the ordinary. Like you say after the first nice bit of skill he just goes around the defenders, not past them or through them,

The title of the video 'when Lewa turned into Messi' is clueless and hyping Lewa.

Also, people who go on about defending in the past wanna watch how putrid the defending is for this Lewa goal. Two men go with the other Pole when he is already covered by another man and open up the right-hand side for Lewa :lol:

Slovenia couldn't defend that day.
 
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Maradona37

Well-known member
Duh! Ofcourse, but I am also one of the few objective posters here who's the first one to criticise my club and players when they do something wrong or perform poorly.

Case in point:


My posts generally have a lot of nuance. If you look past your annoyance towards me, you'll notice it. People just try to shoehorn me into boxes I don't belong to. For instance, I am constantly referred to as a "CR7 fanboy" which simply isn't true. Classic case of confirmation bias.

If I rate Rodri higher than Busquets, I'll justify my argument with detailed analysis.
Nah, your posts don't have a lot of nuance. You think they do but it is obvious the game you are playing.

You do criticise your favourite players, like Lewa and Ronaldo. But you do it in such a way that you're doing it to 'appear objective' (you're making a big thing about how objective you are in this post) and also so that when you do praise him - which is the majority of the time - it lends your posts more gravitas because 'look at the times I admitted he was poor'.

Of far more instructive value is not what you say about his individual performances (because being 'bang average' in a random league game against Espanyol that Barca won anyway, during a great bout of form, won't affect his overall standing, so it's 'safe' for you to call him bang average in that instance, it's extremely light, harmless criticism), BUT what you think of him generally as a player. You constantly elevate him over players who were better than him which is classic fanboying behaviour. Regardless of you calling him 'bang average' in a game where you can't really claim he was otherwise, because he clearly was bang average and for you to claim otherwise would be laughable.

You want to be seen as 'objective' for stating the truth and not acting deluded and defending the indefensible, which ironically highlights your agenda. If you were genuinely 'objective' you would be more critical of him than you are.

What's actually objective is me liking you to an extent and thinking you are capable of good posts, but me equally having zero problem telling you in no uncertain terms when you are talking bollocks. Like you are here. No offence.
 
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companyofcules

Well-known member
Nice debate but Benzema is the most complete, while R9 was the best.
You can write whatever you want, neither Suarez and especially Lewandowski couldn't do what Benzema could.

Ball control absolutely superior.
Heading ability against real oponents.
Winning most of his physical duels.

Yes he was a clown for much of his carrier at Real, but not because he didn't have the ability and usually in small matches where a certain guy wanted all the glory.

Suarez was really close but him having no heading ability and always falling flat instead of winning duels mskes Benzema superior.
As for R9 he was absolutely not my favorite player after he left Barcelona, never watched him again, except 3 games, but at Barcelona he was 10 levels above Suarez.
 

TemporaryFan

Active member
I remember this one, of course the other one against Slovenia too. Nice...but....

Let's be honest, those were no dribbles, ala Messi, Ronaldo, or Maradona style, those were excellent runs with the ball. There's a subtle difference...

A dribble in my book is when a player fools the opponent with a body swing, footwork tricks, gets the ball through between the legs, etc. - basically makes the opponent(s) disoriented for the purpose of advancing himself with the ball past that opponent(s).
Lewandowski is capable of some dribbles and tricks...but that's not what he is going to be remembered for.
 

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