André Gomes

[Rahj]

just reading the previous post by Potroh and i can only agree. his body language is awful and his seems to have this " i am at barca so lets not give a fuck" attitude.

 

[Iarwain]

Today's line up pretty much confirmed he's gonna start vs Real Madrid.

I shiver at the mere thought of him trying to contain Modrić with his presence and aggression.

 

[God Serena]

Gomes might be a good player for an average Spanish team (definitely not for Barca or the Portuguese NT) but in case it is true that Lucho was the one craving for him, he was out of his mind back then.
He represents the A-TYPICAL player who has nothing to do with Barca's style, approach or qualities. He is slow and all that but most importantly: highly predictable. And that's the main problem, because he won't be able to consume a "creativity liquid" and suddenly become someone else. The greatness of MSN is that in good form they are UNPREDICTABLE, so is Iniesta and that's what makes Barca Barca today!
Even Arda (whom I wholeheartedly dislike) is capable of some small quantity of this needed unpredictability, which could work sometimes if the a football-field was a quarter of its size. But the supposedly good Gomes is loosing on the physical side too, which makes him anything but someone to serve useful or creative balls to the MSN or do something useful in defense... (He is tall but looses each and every duel in the air...)

If you are a good observer you can see that he has almost NO facial expressions whatsoever, which is a good sign to identify a "motoric", "robotic" and uninteresting average player, who can perhaps only force himself to be getting involved...

You haven't been here long (Or maybe you're just a hardcore lurker), but you should post more often. We need more guys like you around. It's nice to see someone new posting here who contributes the way you do.

 

[serghei]

Today's line up pretty much confirmed he's gonna start vs Real Madrid.

I shiver at the mere thought of him trying to contain Modrić with his presence and aggression.

Maybe the plan on Camp Nou should be to make them contain us more, don't you think? We are not a team to defend, if we end up doing that, it means the manager is at fault.

 

[Potroh]

You haven't been here long (Or maybe you're just a hardcore lurker), but you should post more often. We need more guys like you around. It's nice to see someone new posting here who contributes the way you do.

Kind words, thanks. No, I'm not a lurker, just found this forum back in the spring when things were and seemed to be better with the team, thus had little to nothing to say...
And you are right, "fresh blood" and different perspectives always stir up nice communities with the same aim...

 

[Horatio]

If you are a good observer you can see that he has almost NO facial expressions whatsoever, which is a good sign to identify a "motoric", "robotic" and uninteresting average player, who can perhaps only force himself to be getting involved...

Good post except for this. It's a slippery road to gauge players' motivation by looking how many facial expressions they have. Some players are more focused and 'in the zone' and getting emotional affects their play in a bad way. For other players its the other way around and they find strength within their emotions.

No emotion is usually also a sign of nervousness. It seems more plausible that this is the case with Gomes, going to a big club as Barca having insecurites wether you will fit in or not.

You haven't been here long (Or maybe you're just a hardcore lurker), but you should post more often. We need more guys like you around. It's nice to see someone new posting here who contributes the way you do.

with 'guys like you' you probably mean to say 'guys who share my exact same opinion'.

 

[God Serena]

with 'guys like you' you probably mean to say 'guys who share my exact same opinion'.

Oh, you're funny.

But nah, I even value you as a poster here, as hard as that may be to believe.

 

[Total-Football]

wow ... that's some deep analysis you got there dear freinds .. his facial expressions are robotic so he's shit ?! lol .. i agree about him being kinda shit , i'm not impressed so far .. but we often hear the word " slow " .. but some amazing midfielders who marked the game were " slow " .. ballack somes to mind, his compatriot " Effenberg " was also slow .. but we are talking about some amazing midfielders here ; so being slow doesn't equal being shit .. what we lack is some balance , if he played with fatser midfielders , and if he shows some quality in other compartments of the game , then he might turn into something .. so far , he does show glimpses of that ,but that ain't gonna cut it .. he definitely needs to improve , and that's something we all agree on.

Horatio took the words out of my mouth when it comes to Serena lmao

 

[Neeraj]

To be honest, it's pretty amazing at how little he contributes to the team..It's like he might as well not be there..

 

[perardgique]

To be honest, it's pretty amazing at how little he contributes to the team..It's like he might as well not be there..

It's like it was obvious from the space that throwing 100 mil euros on both him and Arda Turan was ridicoulus. If I can see it prior to the transfer and every person who follows football can also see it, how come the board members can't?

 

[kilian]

It's like it was obvious from the space that throwing 100 mil euros on both him and Arda Turan was ridicoulus. If I can see it prior to the transfer and every person who follows football can also see it, how come the board members can't?

How did you exactly know that Arda will be a fail? I remember that everyone was pretty excited about "unleashing the beard" when he couldn`t play because of the ban. I was too, to be honest. I really thought that with his supposed warrior spirit from Atletico and great technique we bought a great addition to the squad. No one knew at the time that he will play like a poodle, not a bull terrier.

And now you`re saying that everyone saw it. Interesting.

We will see about Gomes. It is ridiculous to call him a fail after playing so few games. Modric was called the worst transfer of the season when he came to Madrid and look at him now. We`ll see his performance `till sumer and then we can say is he a good or bad transfer.

 

[Alik]

It's like it was obvious from the space that throwing 100 mil euros on both him and Arda Turan was ridicoulus. If I can see it prior to the transfer and every person who follows football can also see it, how come the board members can't?

Except that people had quite divided views about Turan's and Gomes' signing.

Personally, I really wish we would have gone for Gundogan, but that's another matter.

 

[perardgique]

How did you exactly know that Arda will be a fail? I remember that everyone was pretty excited about "unleashing the beard" when he couldn`t play because of the ban. I was too, to be honest. I really thought that with his supposed warrior spirit from Atletico and great technique we bought a great addition to the squad. No one knew at the time that he will play like a poodle, not a bull terrier.

And now you`re saying that everyone saw it. Interesting.

We will see about Gomes. It is ridiculous to call him a fail after playing so few games. Modric was called the worst transfer of the season when he came to Madrid and look at him now. We`ll see his performance `till sumer and then we can say is he a good or bad transfer.

People who understand football is what I should have said. Arda was bought to win elections just because he was one of the better players of a rival team. Atletico never relied on individual stars and arda was just a 1/11 of a warrior team. I think Atletico were laughing all the way to the bank because even though arda was a "fighter" he was never defensively responsible and they surely didn't win games just due to his quality. In my opinion they were looking to sell him.

On the other hand you compare Andre Gomes with Modrić. Modrić was probably best midfielder in Premier league when he came in, and even though he came in a new country and played in a new position as a substitute he did pretty well and it was never a question whether he will make it in Real Madrid. He just needed a string of games at cm. I don't think Andre will show quality if he gets few games in a row.

I remember I wrote somewhere 2 years ago: You can buy Gundogan and Kovacic for 45 mil or only Arda for 40 mil. One of those 2(gundogan or kovacic) would succeed in Barca longterm, while you could get max 2 good seasons from arda. But kovacic and gundogan don't win elections.

 

[khaled_a_d]

I remember I wrote somewhere 2 years ago: You can buy Gundogan and Kovacic for 45 mil or only Arda for 40 mil. One of those 2(gundogan or kovacic) would succeed in Barca longterm, while you could get max 2 good seasons from arda. But kovacic and gundogan don't win elections.

1-We made a reasonable effort to sign Kovacic in 2014 with an official offer for Inter but rejected it,then in 2015 RM came and they had no ban and there was no way we get him over RM.
2-Gundogan had too many injuries for a board that bought Vermaelen 2 years ago,and had his mind to join Pep from the very start.
3-I didn't want Arda or Gomes,like them both as players but never really believed in their fit into the team.
4-That said just because some players moved to other clubs with certain price doesn't mean we could have signed them,plenty of factors out there that decide those transfers.
For example we tried to get Dembele,then Gamiero,then Vietto but all wanted other moves and didn't want to play behind MSN (smart people) and we ended up paying for the one who wanted to get the hell out of Valencia even if it meant to play behind Suarez.
That doesn't mean Alcacer was good move in hindsight at least but it wasn't because others was available.
Same for the whole Arda was a bad deal and Gomes might end as bad one too but that isn't because of Gundogan or Kovacic

 

[kilian]

People who understand football is what I should have said. Arda was bought to win elections just because he was one of the better players of a rival team. Atletico never relied on individual stars and arda was just a 1/11 of a warrior team. I think Atletico were laughing all the way to the bank because even though arda was a "fighter" he was never defensively responsible and they surely didn't win games just due to his quality. In my opinion they were looking to sell him.

On the other hand you compare Andre Gomes with Modrić. Modrić was probably best midfielder in Premier league when he came in, and even though he came in a new country and played in a new position as a substitute he did pretty well and it was never a question whether he will make it in Real Madrid. He just needed a string of games at cm. I don't think Andre will show quality if he gets few games in a row.

I remember I wrote somewhere 2 years ago: You can buy Gundogan and Kovacic for 45 mil or only Arda for 40 mil. One of those 2(gundogan or kovacic) would succeed in Barca longterm, while you could get max 2 good seasons from arda. But kovacic and gundogan don't win elections.

Oh, another one who is blessed with understanding football better than us mortals. Give me a break.

I`m not comparing Gomes with Modric. Just saying that he was called the transfer flop of the year or whatever it`s called and after that he became their most important player. It`s not true that it was never a question will he succeed in Madrid. At that moment everyone thought that he is out of his depth.

Regarding Kovacic and Gundogan. Kovacic didn`t do shit until now and we are yet to see is he good enough. One or two good games doesn`t mean anything. That guy would be lost in our midfield the same way Rafinha/Gomes/Denis are.
Gundogan is good, but he had his problems, so we`ll see can he produce good performances over a longer period of time.