Antoine Griezmann

[El Barcelona]

I've never played that game, I've no idea what it is about, but from my quick Google search this is the best I came up with:

No thanks.

That Ninja guy is earning 500.000€ every month with streaming games. Not my kind of games.



Not sure if Griezmann is the right fit but don't believe it either.

 

[Leo_Messi]

He missed his shot. No hard feelings but he's older than last summer, and he would cost more. So no for me. He'll be 28 in a few days. We need someone younger and someone who's more of a solo no9. Griezmann has said repeatedly he likes playing with a 9. So clearly he doesn't see himself as the main striker. Like Luis clearly is for us.


He's not that prolific. They need someone with flat out amazing numbers.

That post does not make any sense.

Suárez was bought for €100 million (in a completely different transfer market) back in 2014. Being only 10 months younger than Griezmann will be this summer WHILE serving a FIFA ban making him ineligible until October.

There are no young world class strikers or sure bets out there other than Mbappé who is not on the market. Griezmann is incredibly versatile and can play numerous positions very well depending on the tactics and those around him.

Say what?

Griezmann's numbers are world class and amazing given the fact that he is playing for Simeone's Atlético that barely score. 130 goals in 247 games and countless of assists. That's pretty fucking amazing considering his team, manager and teammates.

Anyway while I rate Griezmann highly and could easily see him become a big success for us, we will survive without him easily much like without Mbappé. The point however is that the current market for strikers is utterly crap and for €120 million (although we won't buy him) he would be an absolute steal in this current transfer market. No two ways about it.

The same Griezmann that has been the star of a STACKED French NT team in two successive tournaments where they reached the final in both. EURO 2016 and won the World Cup last year. In both those tournaments Griezmann played a crucial role and was overall the best player.

 

[serghei]

That post does not make any sense.

Suárez was bought for €100 million (in a completely different transfer market) back in 2014. Being only 10 months younger than Griezmann will be this summer AND serving a FIFA ban making him ineligible until October.

There are no young world class striker or sure bet other than Mbappé who is not on the market. Griezmann is incredibly versatile and can play numerous positions very well depending on tactics and those around him.

Say what?

Griezmann's numbers are world class and amazing given the fact that he is playing for Simeone's Atlético that barely score. 130 goals in 247 games and countless of assists? That's pretty fucking amazing considering his team, manager and teammates.

Anyway while I rate Griezmann highly and could easily see him become a big success for us, we will survive without him easily much like without Mbappé. The point however is that the current market for strikers is utterly crap and for €120 million (although we won't buy him) he would be an absolute steal in this current transfer market. No two ways about it.

The same Griezmann that has been the star of a STACKED French NT team in two successive tournaments where they reached the final in both. EURO 2016 and won the World Cup last year. In both those tournaments Griezmann played a crucial role and was overall the best player.

Hmmm.

Suarez was a more prolific scorer than Griezmann is. Golden boot winner while playing in a tough league like Premier League. The equivalent transfer from today would be Kane.

I don't think we need someone very versatile. We need someone who's comfortable playing in between two CBs with no one in front of him. That would be Diego Costa at Atletico. Griezmann would work under a manager like Guardiola, or Klopp, who play mobile football. Under Valverde it wouldn't work very well imo.

I rate Griezmann highly too. Just wouldn't buy him next summer. Train has passed for me. Also, he has played better for France when Giroud played in front of him. That's also something to note. Griezmann is more the position of Messi. False 9 - 2nd striker.

 

[DonAK]

Hmmm.

Suarez was a more prolific scorer than Griezmann is. Golden boot winner while playing in a tough league like Premier League. The equivalent transfer from today would be Kane.

I don't think we need someone very versatile. We need someone who's comfortable playing in between two CBs with no one in front of him. That would be Diego Costa at Atletico. Griezmann would work under a manager like Guardiola, or Klopp, who play mobile football. Under Valverde it wouldn't work very well imo.

I rate Griezmann highly too. Just wouldn't buy him next summer. Train has passed for me.

The offer now is 16m/year when it was 20m/year last time. So we're offsetting the 20m increase in transfer fee through his wages.

Anyway, I'm unsure about this. If we sign Griezmann, Coutinho gotta go.

 

[serghei]

The offer now is 16m/year when it was 20m/year last time. So we're offsetting the 20m increase in transfer fee through his wages.

Anyway, I'm unsure about this. If we sign Griezmann, Coutinho gotta go.

And isn't Griezmann left footed just like Messi? Would be worried he'd kind of prefer the same areas Messi appears in regularly.

Btw, it's the 120m. a release clause? Or just some sort of verbal agreement with Atletico.

 

[Leo_Messi]

Hmmm.

Suarez was a more prolific scorer than Griezmann is. Golden boot winner while playing in a tough league like Premier League. The equivalent transfer from today would be Kane.

I don't think we need someone very versatile. We need someone who's comfortable playing in between two CBs with no one in front of him. That would be Diego Costa at Atletico. Griezmann would work under a manager like Guardiola, or Klopp, who play mobile football. Under Valverde it wouldn't work very well imo.

I rate Griezmann highly too. Just wouldn't buy him next summer. Train has passed for me. Also, he has played better for France when Giroud played in front of him. That's also something to note.

Only for one single season at Liverpool during his 3.5 years there. La Liga is not tough? It's superior to the EPL and certainly the EPL during that era (2011-2014). Griezmann is MUCH more proven than Suárez was when we bought him in 2014. For club AND country. Suárez was/is the much better player than Kane but I get the comparison although Kane's stats are much superior to those of Suárez during his Liverpool stint. All while being younger than Suárez was when we bought him.

Well, we usually always prefer versatile players as they tend to be more intelligent players and given our fluid system (s). When we have a manager that utilizes the squad properly that is.

Well luckily Valverde would not be our manager for the entire duration of Griezmann's stay here (should he arrive) so don't see that as a problem. At worst he will be his manager for 1 season.

If the same Valverde can keep playing Coutinho of all people as one of our 3 strikers, I am sure that he would be able to fit Messi, Dembélé, Griezmann and Suárez (in a lesser role) in the same team. I deliberately kept Coutinho out here as I believe that he will be shown the door if we end up buying Griezmann which I personally don't believe that we will but worser things could occur, lol.

Fair enough. Just don't see the sense/logic in people claiming that the "train has passed" given the Suárez example. Or even when we bought the likes of Ibra (was Griezmann's age in 2009), Villa (even older in 2010) or before that a 29 year old Henry in 2007. All 3 world class and proven players much like Griezmann would be say unlike the likes of Jovic (who is otherwise my first pick out of the young guys we are interested in compared to price tag, ability, what I have seen and potential with Félix being second).

HOWEVER if we can find/sign a player that stylistically is closer to Suárez and has the same/similar potential, sign me up on that list instead but I just don't see such a guy anywhere out there.

 

[DonAK]

And isn't Griezmann left footed just like Messi? Would be worried he'd kind of prefer the same areas Messi appears in regularly.

Btw, it's the 120m. a release clause? Or just some sort of verbal agreement with Atletico.

He is.

According to l'Equipe it's his buyout until June.

 

[Givenchy]

Griezmann isn't exactly a cunt.. immature? sure but i don't see him doing anything that bad

IF and thats a big if, we can shift Coutinho for over 120mil then i wouldn't mind bringing in Griezmann. the guy fucked up staying with Atleti but i've noticed from watching them recently, he seems to play a more Messi type role then a pure ST we need to replace Suarez and i cant fathom benching Dembele for him.

 

[DonAK]

I'll say one thing though.

Despite his retarded documentary, he didn't hurt Barca in any way. What Neymar did hurt Barca. He never committed to a deal as that documentary proved. If he's willing to apologize and sign for Barcelona by taking a paycut compared to his current salary at Atletico and we're able to move Coutinho who's a misfit and bring in Griezmann for around the same fee...

I can see why it would be enticing for the club. Unfortunately there's very few strikers or goalscoring forwards in the World right now that would come and improve this team Day 1.

There is Harry Kane and then what? A huge gaping hole. Mbappé yes, but that's not happening for another couple of years, if ever.

It also gives Barca time to assess the options on the market in the coming years without a huge drop in quality from Suarez and even make a play on Mbappé down the line if he ever considers leaving PSG.

 

[serghei]

I'll say one thing though.

Despite his retarded documentary, he didn't hurt Barca in any way. What Neymar did hurt Barca. He never committed to a deal as that documentary proved. If he's willing to apologize and sign for Barcelona by taking a paycut compared to his current salary at Atletico and we're able to move Coutinho who's a misfit and bring in Griezmann for around the same fee...

I can see why it would be enticing for the club. Unfortunately there's very few strikers or goalscoring forwards in the World right now that would come and improve this team Day 1.

There is Harry Kane and then what? A huge gaping hole. Mbappé yes, but that's not happening for another couple of years, if ever.

We keep signing players who aren't a very good fit imo, and then leave it to Valverde to find a way to play them, and he's just horrible at this. It usually ends up with Ernie doing jack shit with these players.

Who's to say Griezmann won't be similar to Coutinho? Coutinho also played out of his mind at Liverpool before we got him. Was dribbling players for fun and scoring great goals every other week.

 

[Leo_Messi]

3-4 seasons at the top (at least 3) is easily worth €120 million in nowadays transfer market. There is no "sure" , "world class" and "performing from day 1" option out there other than Mbappé who is unrealistic. In fact Griezmann has a higher level than Mbappé has currently. In the sense that he is much more consistent which is natural given Mbappé's age and him not being the finished product unlike Griezmann. Familiar with Spain and La Liga too.

Offload the 1 year younger Coutinho and sign Griezmann. Every sane person should approve of such a deal given our need for a new number 9/10 hybrid. An unknown like Félix has a similar buyout clause. Just to put his rumored buyout clause until June in perspective.

We bought Suárez for €100 million in 2014 when he was 10 months younger than Griezmann will be in July of this year. So easily 4 world class seasons left in Griezmann and almost 100% guarantee of world class performances from day 1.

NO. Dignity has no price.

We bought Suárez. If we buy Griezmann nobody will remember that idiotic and largely innocent "la decisión" video just like nobody (at least I did not) gave Suárez's past a thought (or even the long ban he got which made it impossible for him to debut for us until that El Clásico game at the Bernabéu in October of 2014 which we lost 3-1). At least I did not.

When Griezmann first starts playing great (his overall play is world class) and starts scoring and assisting no sane person will give a flying crap.

For €120 million he is the best and most realistic option out there if the board and Valverde want a proven world class player that will perform from day 1. No two ways about it.

What is certain is that we can't have a 33 year old Suárez (from next season on) being as untouchable as he is currently and playing as much as he is. We can and must do better than that.

 

[George_Costanza]

Not surprised really as this board have no dignity and self-respect, and reading this thread, the usual suspects backing up this transfer.

 

[DonAK]

[MENTION=19517]Leo_Messi[/MENTION] are you glitching?

I feel like I'm reading the same post over and over again

 

[DonAK]

If we're gonna talk about dignity and self-respect then Barca should not have signed Luis Suarez back in 2014 based on his actions.

The sooner you realize there is no such thing in football the better for you folks.

 

[Leo_Messi]

[MENTION=19517]Leo_Messi[/MENTION] are you glitching?

I feel like I'm reading the same post over and over again

Deleted 1 post and moved the old reply to a new one as they were a continuation of what I wrote earlier. Quoting several users is messy as I prefer to answer in 1 single post rather than several if the same thing is being discussed.

LOL, at the 4chan addict and basement dude just above looking for attention as usual. Crawling out of his rathole as usual. Not understanding what Griezmann's harmless "La decisión" was about in the first place and being foolish enough to swallowing what our idiotic local propaganda press was writing for months prior to his actual final decision. Obviously such uniformed and simple-minded people will look at such a harmless decision as "betrayal" is if he ever gave his word to us in public, signed a contract or claimed such a thing in the first place. Instead he ended up renewing with the club that he was under contract with. The horror. What Piqué did was worse as a player under contract for us and I am a huge fan/defender of Piqué here but that should be evident. Hence the club's criticism and that of the fanbase of him and less so Griezmann.

If we're gonna talk about dignity and self-respect then Barca should not have signed Luis Suarez back in 2014 based on his actions.

The sooner you realize there is no such thing in football the better for you folks.

Exactly. Talk about small club mentality. Griezmann has done nothing negative towards us as a club or fanbase. Always been respectful when speaking about us, always praising us, saying it was/is a honor to be linked to us etc. Never been a bitch on the pitch towards us or violent as other thugs for Atlético in the past yet he might be more hated (at least by the lot on this forum) than the likes of freaking Neymar, Ramos and C. Ronaldo.