Vilarrubi
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I’d rather we get that in a sub.. been saying we should have a 6 foot 4 plus striker sub for ages. Someone like Mandukic.
Antoine Griezmann
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I’d rather we get that in a sub.. been saying we should have a 6 foot 4 plus striker sub for ages. Someone like Mandukic.
Jay Jay
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Geri can do that.
gregorrin10
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I'm sorry, what? I guess almost every time he disappears in big games is a sign of an ultra strong player, mentally-wise. He, like the rest of Atletico's team, is nowhere to be found in the biggest games, especially when playing against CR. Not to mention the shit he pulled last year with the 'La Decision' and I also have huge doubts about him playing well with Messi in the same team. People don't want Dybala, even though he's 4 year younger and also Argentinian, but because he and Messi apparently don't work together, he's a not acceptable. Meanwhile people would go all in for Griezmann, but honestly, I don't see him that much different, playing style-wise from Dybala. Griezmann, like Messi, works best with a strong #9 ahead of him, one he can play off of. While he doesn't exactly play well on the wing, so he can't be pushed there either. It's like [MENTION=19407]Andresito[/MENTION] said, Messi needs either a pure 9 in front of him, or a right winger next to him. Griezmann is neither.
Griezmann is also a year older now too, 27 was the last acceptable age I would've taken him for the obvious 100M+ investment he would cost in this market now, like we bought Suarez for 90M in the pre-Neymar market, when he was 27. Not to mention I have absolutely zero trust in Valverde doing the right thing and benching Suarez for him, which would still be acceptable, even though I still don't think Messi and Griezmann would be good together. But I guess with a pacy winger like Dembele alongside them, it could still work. But I have no doubt that Valverde would probably take this one colossal stupid move further and bench Dembele for Griezmann, not Suarez. And if that happened, it would be a disaster of epic proportions.
So to us getting Griezmann, I say NO NO NO, please NO. I'd rather see us get Jovic or someone else, someone who Valverde won't be able to push on to the wing, but actually play him instead of Suarez. Give him 1-2 seasons to prove that they can replace Suarez long term, but of course hopefully actually give them ample playing time and put some trust into it (play him every other match and regular appearances from the bench in other games) to give them a proper chance to prove themselves, not garbage playing time that Paco got, or Malcom is getting.
If it still doesn't work out, someone else/better will be on the market by then anyway. It's not like the market now is anything special, when it comes to strikers. Jovic, Piatek, these are technically still just one-season wonders at this point, and definitely not worth more than 50M, even in this market. While the few seasoned strikers like Mbappe and Kane are unattainable for us right now.
And the most important thing, I wouldn't make any big (100M+) investments (after FDJ and hopefully MDL who are generational talents and must be bought now before someone else gets them, and they will hopefully make their way into Valverde's team, as long as he's here, like Arthur, Lenglet and technically Dembele did), UNTIL Valverde IS GONE. After that, I suspect that anyone new we buy, we'll have a better feeling about it anyway, since it will probably be under a proper manager (Xavi?), who is capable of managing a 20-squad team and use La Masia too, not just play 11-13 players all the time, while the others get garbage playing time or are put in, when shit hits the fan and there is no other choice but to play them.
And someone who doesn't prefer stacking the team with some 30+ year olds instead of relying on and using La Masia, and is not playing favourites (Rakitic, Suarez) or the other way around, inexplicably freezing out great players, who could help the team in a major way, if actually used regularly (Malcom, Alena). Someone who goes out and buys only truly world class players, who can walk in and help the team right away (like Suarez did) or really special young talents, who are worth the investment, like FDJ, Dembele, Arthur and hopefully MDL. While the other spots are filled with giving a chance to La Masia, developing new great players that way, not bring every average or not even that 25+ year old player into the team, just because you don't trust a home-grown 20 year old.
So the way it should be really. 11-13 world class players, 5 young talents, who are content with not yet playing every match, but are capable of filling in and playing even the biggest games, if necessary. And 3-4 spots go to La Masia on positions we need to fill, that way we could regularly promote 1-2 players every season, to see if they have what it takes to make it here, not selling them before they even play one game with the first team, then they go elsewhere and develop into great players we all knew they would become, if they actually got the chance here (Grimaldo, Thiago...)
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ATLBarcaFan
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Where's he going to play? No thanks, just bring in a young quality striker to give Suarez some rest.
George_Costanza
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Good luck having Messi and Griez in the same lineup. They occupy the same positions on the pitch and have similar movements. People who advocate this galactico signing don't understand basic football.
Antoine Griezmann
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Cule4life
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Jovic is much more than a giant who can head. He may not be as silky on the ball as fortnite boy, but he's good enough
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="es" dir="ltr">Enrique Cerezo (Atlético Madrid president): "I can affirm for 1000% that Griezmann will remain a player of Atlético Madrid next season." [el rondo] <a href="https://t.co/d1T8MM5SII">pic.twitter.com/d1T8MM5SII</a></p>— barcacentre (@barcacentre) <a href="https://twitter.com/barcacentre/status/1112773671305797633?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 1, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Well, that means he is leaving. I hope not for Barca. He dont even score that much and we need a killer striker not another creater.
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