Argentina

[soul24rage]

Unfortunately i was right, Argentina is a well oiled machine which doesnt rely on specific players. @KingLeo10 insulted me for saying Messi is a screw in that engine but as expected i was right! The times when they needed him was between 2014-2016 when they reached 3 finals and needed 1 goal. But he failed in these finals when he was in his prime. I have Messi in my top3 Goat list for his individual attributes but it will hurt his legacy that he always needed the best team in the world to win big titles....

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Argentina is dangerous as fuck in WC, they and Spain are top2. Germany and France top4. Portugal and Italy top6. Tough WC. Probably best WC since 2010!

Without Messi, they wouldn't have reached the finals from 2014-2016

 

[Fati_Future_BallonDor]

Without Messi, they wouldn't have reached the finals from 2014-2016

I dont think this is true....

In 2019 you can say we wouldnt have reached semi final without him where he was an one man army.



Anyways, i dont want to speak too much about Messi. He can still prove me wrong next year 2️⃣0️⃣2️⃣6️⃣

 

[Temptation]

Without Messi, they wouldn't have reached the finals from 2014-2016

Currently he is just a cog in the wheel though. They won the last Copa mostly without him. They can survive without him and beat top sides.

It's a machine of a National Team right now. So well oiled and the collective rules.

 

[soul24rage]

I dont think this is true....

Don't just watch the stats, you have to actually watch the games from 2014 - 2016.

 

[Fati_Future_BallonDor]

Currently he is just a cog in the wheel though. They won the last Copa mostly without him. They can survive without him and beat top sides.

It's a machine of a National Team right now. So well oiled and the collective rules.

Yes, who are your top3 fav for WC?

 

[Fati_Future_BallonDor]

Don't just watch the stats, you have to actually watch the games from 2014 - 2016.

Ive watched them bro, ive watched them....

 

[soul24rage]

Currently he is just a cog in the wheel though. They won the last Copa mostly without him. They can survive without him and beat top sides.

It's a machine of a National Team right now. So well oiled and the collective rules.

Yeah, Argentina can survive without Messi, but with him, they are better.

 

[Temptation]

Yes, who are your top3 fav for WC?

Easy. Spain, Argentina, England.

 

[soul24rage]

Ive watched them bro, ive watched them....

Maybe it's due to your old age, but you may have forgotten a lot of details from that period

 

[Temptation]

Yeah, Argentina can survive without Messi, but with him, they are better.

Scaloni has completely turned the NT around. I'd like to see him at club level and in the CL.

 

[soul24rage]

Scaloni has completely turned the NT around. I'd like to see him at club level and in the CL.

His club move will probably to RCD Mallorca. He has strong ties with the city.

 

[Fati_Future_BallonDor]

Yeah, Argentina can survive without Messi, but with him, they are better.

I know that feeling bro, 3 years i fought with that. But sometimes we need to let it end so a new, better thing can happen.....

 

[Fati_Future_BallonDor]

Maybe it's due to your old age, but you may have forgotten a lot of details from that period

My brain is still fit! 🫣🫣

 

[Fati_Future_BallonDor]

Easy. Spain, Argentina, England.

Uf forgot england, yeah they will be also a danger. Tough, tough. There is no chance we will win with Martinez but i think even if we get humilated from Germany he wont be fired :/

@soul24rage your top3?

 

[soul24rage]

I know that feeling bro, 3 years i fought with that. But sometimes we need to let it end so a new, better thing can happen.....

The difference is that Messi elevates the team play.

CR7 can still be effective, but the system needs to change.