Arsenal

[DavidVillano1]

How am I picking and choosing? Get a grip mate.

It's FACT that Arsenal have dropped 3 points at home this season, whilst it's also fact United have dropped 2. However United dropped 2 points against a fellow title challenger in Chelsea. United's result wasn't terrible, Arsenal's was 100%, how hard is that to grasp? United also didn't let in 3 goals and never looked like letting in any, Arsenal on the other hand...

I'm not the one ignoring key aspects when pointing out Arsenal's record last season. People continue to use this 'they had the second best defence in the league' point... You continue to ignore United would have had a better record if they hadn't won the league early. I also stand by that their best defensive and winning run at the end of last season was helped by them playing 3 relegated teams and other teams who's season were practically over and on holiday leave, Swansea a prime example as their form massively dipped!

How about you read my posts about City?

I mentioned on here a few times about City's defensive issues especially left back and if Kompany or Nastastic got injured.

They badly need a top CB and LB.

They've looked very poor all season including pre season, the Newcastle result was in part down to Newcastle being gash. I really rate Pellegrini but some of his decisions and subs have been strange, hopefully City improve throughout the season.

Clichy, Kolarov, Richards, Lescott and Garcia are not good enough for a team that would look to compete in the UCL and for the EPL title IMO. At least one of those will start at left back, Nastastic could be out for a while so another will feature if no signings are made.

If Zabaleta or Kompany got injured then City would be in big trouble as they would have a back five with two players not strong enough.

If I was Man City I would get rid of Barry, Rodwell, Sinclair, Kolarov or Clichy and bring in another CB who can play RB, Toby Alderweireld would be perfect and he's available for under £7 million!!! Then sign two or three more players to bulk the squad up especially a LB.

Chelsea also have defensive issues, never suggested otherwise, however you're once again ignoring key aspects. Mourinho is back and their defensive unit has massively improved as expected and secondly they played numerous games last season and had to contend with rotation during EL/Cup and league games in the second half of the season.

Next time actually read people's post before accusing them of things or ignoring other teams issues, thanks....

 

[pEllee]

Like I said, I posted a link with a good explanation how they improved their defending but you didn't seem interested in reading it.

Also, three relegated teams? No, all three of them were not relegated by the time Arsenal faced them. Some of the other teams were fighting for their survival as well. And some were fighting for a CL spot.
As for the results against the top teams, United would never give up or not try hard against Arsenal, neither would Bayern. They had problems breaking them down because Arsenal were very solid.

It's called making tactical changes. They also made some changes in the line-up. Do you really think the "improvement" wasn't an actual improvement? They simply got lucky and almost every opponents they faced were not giving it their best?

Ye, bullshit.

 

[AnfieldEd]

And you are free to live in cloud cuckoo land until February like most Arsenal fans do.

 

[pEllee]

I've told you a million times, I'm not really an Arsenal-fan. I like the way they play their football, I like watching them play so it's only natural I defend the team. I'm not the one with the bias here. You are.



EDIT: Ok, maybe not a million times but I mentioned it at least more than 2-3 times. I suppose it's easy to think I am an actual fan...but well, I'm not.

 

[Theodore Evelyn Mosby]

If Wenger and Gazidis play their cards (and money) right, this could set up Arsenal for the January transfer window.

FUCKIN' LOVE THIS SIGNING!!! I'm already excited to get my Oezil jersey.

 

[oz187]

why this talk about areas that need to strengthen?

Because Arsenal are a C grade team. They've never won the Champions league, and it's coming up to a decade without a league title, in fact they're not even challenging for the title nowadays, they're only really competing for that 4th Champions league spot.

The primary cause is the defence which has been an issue for many years. Tactical improvements may have been made, but just as you say Arsenal at times lacked creativity, they've also at times lacked defensive stability. This can be seen when they conceded 3 goals against Bayern and again just this season when they let Villa hit three goals past them. Also they need to strengthen the forward line since Giroud is not at the level of the best strikers and there is no strong backup.

 

[Ketoth]

We are the 6th best team in Europe according to UEFA ranking.

 

[ryaninho]

How am I picking and choosing? Get a grip mate.

It's FACT that Arsenal have dropped 3 points at home this season, whilst it's also fact United have dropped 2. However United dropped 2 points against a fellow title challenger in Chelsea. United's result wasn't terrible, Arsenal's was 100%, how hard is that to grasp? United also didn't let in 3 goals and never looked like letting in any, Arsenal on the other hand...

I'm not the one ignoring key aspects when pointing out Arsenal's record last season. People continue to use this 'they had the second best defence in the league' point... You continue to ignore United would have had a better record if they hadn't won the league early. I also stand by that their best defensive and winning run at the end of last season was helped by them playing 3 relegated teams and other teams who's season were practically over and on holiday leave, Swansea a prime example as their form massively dipped!

How about you read my posts about City?



Chelsea also have defensive issues, never suggested otherwise, however you're once again ignoring key aspects. Mourinho is back and their defensive unit has massively improved as expected and secondly they played numerous games last season and had to contend with rotation during EL/Cup and league games in the second half of the season.

Next time actually read people's post before accusing them of things or ignoring other teams issues, thanks....

But you clearly have because you make excuses for Man city, Man u and chelsea... amongst the top 6 last season united had the worst defence although they won the league; and they won the league purely by out scoring most opposition.
Before you open your mouth about 3 goals did you even watch the match against Villa???? I don't think you did at all because you would not use that game as an example.....Oh and the fact united has lost one and drawn one and won 1 in three games with such great defence right seriously you talk trash glorifying other teams who has more problems now (can't create chances and i need of an AM).

Oh and man city letting 3 goals against Cardiff flew by as well right.

 

[ryaninho]

the villa game was bollocks referring than anything else; like I mentioned before two none penalties and one good counter when we were chasing the game.

 

[DavidVillano1]

Deary me, you seriously have some issues.

I made two posts slating City and I'm making excuses for them? Whilst I also said Chelsea had defensive issues.

United had the worst because they lost 5 goals in the final game which they didn't really care about, it's not rocket science, but you don't have brains to figure that one out!

Some people just can't debate or produce valid points, ryaninho

 

[ryaninho]

Deary me, you seriously have some issues.

I made two posts slating City and I'm making excuses for them? Whilst I also said Chelsea had defensive issues.

United had the worst because they lost 5 goals in the final game which they didn't really care about, it's not rocket science, but you don't have brains to figure that one out!

Some people just can't debate or produce valid points, ryaninho

SO what facts and statistics did you bring to justify your claims (the sun) because clearly everything you are saying is opinionated; so not much of a debate really; I brought statistics that compared arsenal to city who had the best defence in the league last season yet you ignored, and brought another opinion on city without facts or statistics to your claims, btw united had already had the worse defence in the top 7 the entire season not just the west brom game

 

[DavidVillano1]

This is like trying to have a conversation with a one year old, no idea why I continue to waste my time and ruin the thread for others.

Will make one final reply and hopefully(although I doubt it) Ryaninho might be able to grasp this....

Spoiler: ...

You ie Ryaninho said the following;

'amongst the top 6 last season united had the worst defence although they won the league'

The top 6 record were as follows

United - 43
City - 34
Chelsea - 39
Arsenal - 37
Spurs - 46
Everton - 40

First off Tottenham had the poorest record, so you were wrong straight away, secondly doing simple maths of subtracting 5 goals from 43 gives you 38. Man United thus having a better record than Chelsea, Everton and Tottenham(already did)

That is fact, not opinion!

 

[ryaninho]

This is like trying to have a conversation with a one year old, no idea why I continue to waste my time and ruin the thread for others.

Will make one final reply and hopefully(although I doubt it) Ryaninho might be able to grasp this....

Spoiler: ...

You ie Ryaninho said the following;

'amongst the top 6 last season united had the worst defence although they won the league'

The top 6 record were as follows

United - 43
City - 34
Chelsea - 39
Arsenal - 37
Spurs - 46
Everton - 40

First off Tottenham had the poorest record, so you were wrong straight away, secondly doing simple maths of subtracting 5 goals from 43 gives you 38. Man United thus having a better record than Chelsea, Everton and Tottenham(already did)

That is fact, not opinion!

That is a very pathetic attempt to make me look stupid my friend. At the end of the day conceding 5 goals at whatever point of the season is still conceding five goals because had they not scored five goals to you its look how much we scored!!. Also equally you can invalidate losing to lesser teams like everton 1-0 so -1 37 conceded see my point? Manipulating figures because of your own opinion doesn't look good it makes you look stupid its illogical and biased to your point. Please look at the bold part and read what you wrote then look at the bold part again and consider how stupid you look.

Let me help you out a little

Fact: man u conceded 43 goals...

Fact: man u didn't have the worse defence in the top 6....

Opinion: man u conceded 38 goals

Opinion: man u had a better defence than chelsea an everton

I guess the facts was weighing against you huh? I guess this 1 year old out smarted you once again.

 

[Theodore Evelyn Mosby]

Why are we talking about the United cheats in the Arsenal thread again????

 

[Robbie]

When Henry left in 2007, every major pundit was predicting a 5th place finish. We got insanely lucky that Adebayor happened to step up at the right time, and that our midfield 3 of Flamini/Hleb/Cesc stayed fit. At one point, we were leading the table by 11 points, but certain defenders (Gallas, Clichy) lost their heads after Feb, and we ended up losing by 4 points in May.

Anyways, it's too early to predict anything. Will Giroud step up like Adebayor did and score 30 goals? Will Flamini/Wilshere/Ozil equal the abilities of Flamini/Hleb/Cesc?