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Jair Ventura
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The point of the study was clear: Discover which countries have produced the highest number of players for big 5 clubs. I don't know why you'd be looking for anything beyond that from it, and if you are, I don't know why you wouldn't find it yourself instead of requesting they do what they never intended.
Ketoth
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Monaco are better than Arsenal because they beat us?
Is that how straight forward it's become?
We beat City this season it doesn't mean we're better than them. We beat Bayern Munich at their place 2 years ago, doesn't mean we're better than them.
But we are better than Monaco. I am thoroughly convinced we have a much better team, better manager and a bigger reputation.
Is that how straight forward it's become?
We beat City this season it doesn't mean we're better than them. We beat Bayern Munich at their place 2 years ago, doesn't mean we're better than them.
But we are better than Monaco. I am thoroughly convinced we have a much better team, better manager and a bigger reputation.
Jair Ventura
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When's the last time Arsenal made it out of the round of 16? You'd think after their continental debacle this season EPL fans would learn their place, but I guess it'll take a few more years of mediocrity to get it fixed in your heads.
Monaco > Arsenal. Deal with it.
Jenks
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You're right that there are no top Premier League sides any more, but still, Arsenal are not worse than Monaco. They completely dominated them yesterday. Monaco were hanging on by the skin of their teeth for long periods, and the first game was an aberration, with defending from Arsenal that was just bizarre at times.
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Sir Alupp Heynrguson
Yeah, because Monaco have such an amazing record in the CL
Jair Ventura
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Ironically, after yesterday, it's better than Arsenals.
Has a team ever come back from a -3 deficit? Nope. Did Monaco play towards that? Yes. Could they have employed a different strategy? Yes, but why? Wasn't necessary. Instead they parked the bus and hoped for the best. They succeeded. Good for them.
The real question is, who aside from Alexis Sanchez sets Arsenal apart from Monaco? Can't be Giroud, the man from Montpellier.
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Sir Alupp Heynrguson
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Ryu Hayabusa
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Honestly, you must be the first arsenal supporter to admit to this truth on the internet.
Jair Ventura
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I'm saying that over the last 5 seasons, which is more relevant time span in the context of a clubs quality than 20, Monaco's UCL record is better than Arsenals.
I'll accept that as you being incapable of answering the question. Your ignorance to the quality of Monaco's squad is noted.
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beautifulgame
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Sir Alupp Heynrguson
Monaco's one fluky quarterfinal is better than 5 round of 16s?! What?
Who? The only players that could even argue a place are Moutinho (worse than Cazorla and Ozil) their CM whose name starts with an A that I can't remember (closest one, he played well but I still don't think he would start) and their CBs (looked impressive when the ball was in the air, but on the ground Mertesacker and Koscielny are much better).
Jair Ventura
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Yes, making the final 8 is better than making the final 16 your ceiling.
Kurzawa and Fabinho are one of the best young full back tandems in the world, both having already earned caps for the senior sides of their respective countries despite their age. Kurzawa is first choice for France, Fabinho is just breaking through for Brazil. Both of them are products of two of Europe's best youth development systems in Real Madrid and Monaco.
Kondogbia has been a French international since he was 15, winning the U20 WC in 2013 playing in the middle alongside Pogba. He's one of the highest valued young defensive mids in the world.
Same as Kondogbia, Yannick Ferreira Carrasco has been an international since he was 15, except he plays for Belgium. He's currently experiencing a breakout season on the club level and is seeing his value increase tremendously. Very few attacking mids/LW's of his age group will fetch more on the transfer market.
Martial is one of the highest valued strikers of his age group, if not the highest valued, being a legitimate wonder kid producing at the senior level. Same story with Benardo Silva of Portugal who came up through the Benfica youth system. Highly valued wonder kid killing it on the first team.
I could go on, but Monaco is stacked with young players of class whose value confirms their quality. Wisely, Monaco added established veterans such as Berbatov, Moutinho, and Falcao to help bring the younger guys along. They're no doubt better situated for the future than Arsenal, who'd have to shell out 100m+ to fill their youth system with comparable depth of talent.
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