Arthur

Don Andrésº8

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I think Messi needs to play false nine and let Arthur build from the backup, he can do it, but Messi needs to play more upfront and let others do his thing
 

serghei

Senior Member
Needs to play forward passes regardless. Expose Messi and Suarez poor movements, because those two are not doing their job.

Then he'll be blamed for making bad passes. It doesn't work like that. With a midfield passer, if the team is dead slow and lazy as fuck, his course of action is to recycle possession. Which is what Arthur is doing. And this is what Xavi would've done as well. Recycle possession and wait for the opening to appear.

There is no window of opportunity for a good forward pass, there is no pass. Simples.

Arthur looked better with the 2nd string vs Tottenham than today, simply because in the first half vs Tottenham, there was a lot of energy from the boys, and a lot of willingness to press and do work off the ball.

Hipotethically, let's say Arthur has the ball and there is no good movement around him for a good short pass, or even for a good 2nd station medium pass. He basically has 4 options give or take, each with a different chance of success:

1) Go rogue and try to dribble his way through. Extremely low chances of success and potentiall deadly for his own team.
2) Force a pass to an imobile target, in which case the marking defender would probably get there first, resulting in a slightly less dangerous turnover than point 1).
3) Go for a very very wide long range pass to a player who is so far away from him, that he is marked in a more laxed way. The distance being this big means the amount of time the ball takes to travel 50m. that pass becomes an aerial duel. Another turnover, but by far a better type than 1) or 2) because it's a turnover deep into the opponent's half.
4) Recycle possession and wait for a better opportunity. Which brings us to another case in which the same 4 courses of action are presented to a player in possesion from a deep position facing a 10 men packed defense.

If we want to win the CL again with high chances the solution is to bench the lazy players, and bring back pressing and off the ball movement with intensity. At least start trimming them to only having one, Messi.
 
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Overrated right now but might become good in a few years.

He was good for the Brazilian league playing against grandpas, but hes Gonna have to work hard To prove himself here.
 

vlad

New member
Arthur will have to realize that he will be facing 80% teams in la liga which will defend with two lines, so he will not have much space for forward passes, add to that messi in front who doesnt move alot, suarez isnt much better.


Barca needs to play faster football, this possession slow build up gameplay is boring and top teams will not have problems to defend, doesnt matter all that quality in the squad when every player has 2 opposition players in front of him to dribble.
 

Androutsos

Senior Member
I'm not sure how many of you guys have played football before but 'backwards passing and sideways passing' are extremely important in breaking down teams. Moving the ball from side to side, never being static, wearing out the opposition and creating space... it isn't his fault that besides Dembele and Nelsinho, no one was moving ahead of him.

In his first game with most of the gala 11, he did well and as he adapts he will get better, play faster and learn when and to whom he can play more risky passes.

You wanted a 'controller' and now you have one.
 

Jombi

New member
It was Rafinha who was bad, not Arthur. We need to give the guy a break. We have slugs up front, Arthur did the best we could expect.
 

kattanib

Well-known member
Seems like he is missing a key ingredient which is “Vision”. Haven’t seen a single killer pass from him in the 3 games he played in
 
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kattanib

Well-known member
You’ll bash me, then eventually realize what I have already realized ages ago. Same shit happend with Dembele, I said that they guy is a Di Maria and nothing more sense August or September last year
 

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