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[El Trencaxarxes]

Not true at all. Pep is gone because he is following his own glory and said clearly himself he won't be staying for long. Rosell bent over backwards to keep him too.

Getting tired watching people rewriting history.

By same logic, suppose he is admiring sheiks vision of football so he is staying in City?

I didn't say that Pep left because of Sandro, now did I? I only wrote in relation to a possible return.

With regards to that last, somewhat unnecessary shot at me, I would say the following. Firstly, if you merely look at the football-related visions and way of running a club, I think Pep is very happy with Sheikh Mansour's leadership. He has hired a bunch of people, with whom Pep closely shares values and ideas and already has well-established relationships - most notably Ferran Soriano and Txiki Begiristain. He has also given Pep the players he wanted and hasn't sold anyone against his will, contrary to what Rosell did with Chygrynskiy.

Secondly, I don't think Pep gives a toss about how City is run outside of the football operation. City isn't a club which he keeps in his heart. Barcelona is. He cares about Barcelona on a much more profound and real level than he cares about City. The same holds true for Bayern. I don't think mismanagement in Bayern nowadays would mean a thing for Pep. Mismanagement in Barcelona is a different story, however, precisely because it is the club for Pep.

Last but not least, I generally don't think we should expect to see Pep back in Barcelona in any coaching capacity. Not that Pep isn't a brave man or anything like that, but I don't think he would risk it. His name is legendary and he could almost only be a disappointment if he came back. People would expect him to win everything, and that's an insane task to undertake considering the pressure that would be on him already before taking his name and history into account.

 

[BarcaOG]

i love him

 

[Barcaman]

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Secondly, I don't think Pep gives a toss about how City is run outside of the football operation. City isn't a club which he keeps in his heart.

That's a change then. Because when he picked Bayern he specifed exactly the reason why he did so. Spoke clearly about it's history and healthy business model.

And then he went on to pick City.

But yeah. Pep fans will swallow everything he says because things are white and black and pep can't be a dick or greedy and noone is more Barcelona than him.

 

[El Trencaxarxes]

That's a change then. Because when he picked Bayern he specifed exactly the reason why he did so. Spoke clearly about it's history and healthy business model.

And then he went on to pick City.

But yeah. Pep fans will swallow everything he says because things are white and black and pep can't be a dick or greedy and noone is more Barcelona than him.

No, you're right. Things aren't black and white, which is exactly why Pep will have a significantly different approach to clubs like City and Bayern compared to Barcelona. Why can't it be true that Pep chose Bayern partly because of their history - although that part has nothing to do with my claim - and business model, and that he doesn't give a toss about how City is run outside of the football operation? You were just telling me how things aren't black and white, right? Then surely both can be true. Pep most likely chose City because they had a good foundation in place for him to build on, and also have a nearly inexhaustible source of funds at their hands.

No matter what, we're veering further and further from the original point, which was that Pep won't be back in Barcelona as long as it is run by people with whom he has so big disagreements with regards to how the club should be run. I wasn't arguing that Sandro was the single cause of his departure, neither was I arguing that Pep is a perfect man or coach so calm down with that stuff.

 

[Barcaman]

No, you're right. Things aren't black and white, which is exactly why Pep will have a significantly different approach to clubs like City and Bayern compared to Barcelona. Why can't it be true that Pep chose Bayern partly because of their history - although that part has nothing to do with my claim - and business model, and that he doesn't give a toss about how City is run outside of the football operation? You were just telling me how things aren't black and white, right? Then surely both can be true. Pep most likely chose City because they had a good foundation in place for him to build on, and also have a nearly inexhaustible source of funds at their hands.

No matter what, we're veering further and further from the original point, which was that Pep won't be back in Barcelona as long as it is run by people with whom he has so big disagreements with regards to how the club should be run. I wasn't arguing that Sandro was the single cause of his departure, neither was I arguing that Pep is a perfect man or coach so calm down with that stuff.

Again, it strikes me like you are badly informed. You didn't read comments from his camp (his dad?) when asked about his return. They said (mockingly) "what he would do?". He is not interested at all in return under any capacity.

 

[DonAK]

Pep will return, but not as a manager and not anytime soon. Perhaps in 10-15 years as the director of La Masia as he envisions.

 

[El Trencaxarxes]

Again, it strikes me like you are badly informed. You didn't read comments from his camp (his dad?) when asked about his return. They said (mockingly) "what he would do?". He is not interested at all in return under any capacity.

You actually didn't even read my full comment, did you?

Last but not least, I generally don't think we should expect to see Pep back in Barcelona in any coaching capacity. Not that Pep isn't a brave man or anything like that, but I don't think he would risk it. His name is legendary and he could almost only be a disappointment if he came back. People would expect him to win everything, and that's an insane task to undertake considering the pressure that would be on him already before taking his name and history into account.

The only way I could see Pep coming back to Barcelona would be as a sporting director when he is done with his coaching career, which I suspect will be sooner rather than later. The way he approaches his work is extremely demanding, so I honestly don't see him doing it well into his 60's. With a different board, whose values and visions are more aligned with Pep's, I could potentially see him doing something at a more administrative level. Or, you know, coaching Barça B as he has admitted he would like to try again.

 

[Barcaman]

You said he wouldn't come back as long as he has has big disagreements with people who run the club now. I tried to point out that that's not the issue as he has no intention to come back regardless.

Pep is chasing pep glory and in it for big bucks now. No romanticism in it and he is not the same person who was here 09-12. We all need to let go but cherish the past as well.

 

[Givenchy]

if Pep ever returned it would always be compared with his first spell here where he put together the greatest team of all time.. the only way is down from that

always wanted him to return some day but i think hes more likely to goto Italy next

 

[DonAK]

Pep said he'd be back, but not as a manager and that won't change even if his crew at Man City(Txiki, Soriano) return to Barcelona. He said he'll return where it all started for him, as in La Masia.

And I definitely wouldn't mind that. If he in the future want to form the academy then I'm all for it. No better man for the job when he eventually want it.

 

[El Trencaxarxes]

You said he wouldn't come back as long as he has has big disagreements with people who run the club now. I tried to point out that that's not the issue as he has no intention to come back regardless.

Pep is chasing pep glory and in it for big bucks now. No romanticism in it and he is not the same person who was here 09-12. We all need to let go but cherish the past as well.

I mean, it's been less than two months since Pep stated that he would like to end his career with another stint with Barça B, so I don't understand why you're so hell bent on saying that he's definitely never coming back.

In general, I don't get your need to antagonise him like that, but each to his own I suppose.

 

[putogusiluz8]

Pep will return, but not as a manager and not anytime soon. Perhaps in 10-15 years as the director of La Masia as he envisions.

No more Messi-Pep ��

 

[MTL_Barca]

Pep is still just 47, he could coach City for another 2 years and then go to France or Italy for 4 years and would still just be as old as Valverde is right now. I don't really see him doing the job for another 15-20 years but if he doesn't decide to quit early or do something other than club coaching he could still coach us in 8-10 years or so. Who knows.

I think if he ever returns as a coach then it'll be after all the players he used to coach here are gone.

 

[Gnidrologist]

How about we return on topic and talk about Greece instead?

 

[khaled_a_d]

Pep said he'd be back, but not as a manager and that won't change even if his crew at Man City(Txiki, Soriano) return to Barcelona. He said he'll return where it all started for him, as in La Masia.

And I definitely wouldn't mind that. If he in the future want to form the academy then I'm all for it. No better man for the job when he eventually want it.

Pep says ton of things, like many people.
He himself probably doesn't have a concrete plans for what he is going to do next, just thoughts.
Doubt he will ever be an academy coach , probably will be a super special consultant like Crujif/Jerry West for either us or City