Arthur

[aceshigh]

i'm thankful for the guys who decided to bring arthur this summer instead of this winter like it was originally planned

Well, Barça had to pay a premium to take him in July. As a Grêmio fan I am not happy as it may cost or bid to win the Libertadores twice in a row. And against Real Madrid in December. As a Barca fan I am happy he came in the winter (southern Hemisphere winter)

 

[jairzinho]

It's fair to say adaption to a new continent, language and style of football doesn't mean shit if you have the right quality.

He went from playing against brazilian farmers to the world's best players. For Arthur, all opponents seem equal.

Last sunday he took his game to the next level. He actually made passes that led to chances, and I loved it.

Brazilian Farmers



People have this weird idea that players can't make the jump from the Brasileirão (a farmers league as you put it) to any top team/league in the world. Arthur is just the latest player to prove many wrong.

 

[xXKonan]

Brazilian Farmers



People have this weird idea that players can't make the jump from the Brasileirão (a farmers league as you put it) to any top team/league in the world. Arthur is just the latest player to prove many wrong.

When it comes to Brazil, I think the players I'm really skeptical the most are usually Forwards/Midfielders and to an extent Fullbacks as well.

While Brazil isn't that weak to an extent, it's still quite a jump compared to let's say La Liga. With Forwards a good chunk of them usually doesn't make it in the top leagues in Europe because the difference between defenses and the speed of the game is to much for them. Guess that can apply to Midfielders and Fullbacks as well.

Lucas Silva is a good example of a good talent that was hyped a good amount that failed in Europe even before he had his heart issues. Even in the Highlights, you could tell straight away that he wasn't going to make it though. He reminded me of much slower Andre Gomes as in much slower at what to do with the Ball. Even with the Space he had in Brazil it took him to long to figure out what to do with the ball and that won't cut it in the top leagues.

Arthur though I always had a hunch that he can make the transition pretty quick and sure enough he has shown so it so far.

 

[PhilS]

https://media-public.fcbarcelona.co...01773917/1.0-10/101773917.jpg?t=1540811123000

There's a hilarious photo of Arthur at practice, on the team website this week. The boy from Brazil is wearing a heavy balaclava and gloves, in Barca in October. You can't see if he's also wearing long pants. It's going to be a tough first European winter for this tropical dude. Maybe he should stay behind for the trip to PSV at the end of November, for the Liga away games up in the mountains this winter, and possible champions league knockout games away in true cold.

 

[PhilS]

Well, the Xavi comparisons are not too accurate. Xavi had excellent goal scoring ability for a midfielder, Arthur not so much. Xavi did get pushed around, as a tiny person, which is not a problem for Arthur. Xavi was more two-footed. Arthur is continuing to improve on defense, this is more important these days than it was in Xavi's prime.

 

[Gnidrologist]

He's not the only ninja there.

 

[BarçaBarça]

Mindblowing how easy it is for him to blend in, create and be decisive in getting that control back.
Superb partnership with Rakitic these last few games, really a great midfield-combination we have found!

 

[Senador Romario]

https://media-public.fcbarcelona.co...01773917/1.0-10/101773917.jpg?t=1540811123000

There's a hilarious photo of Arthur at practice, on the team website this week. The boy from Brazil is wearing a heavy balaclava and gloves, in Barca in October. You can't see if he's also wearing long pants. It's going to be a tough first European winter for this tropical dude. Maybe he should stay behind for the trip to PSV at the end of November, for the Liga away games up in the mountains this winter, and possible champions league knockout games away in true cold.

Tbh he was not living in the tropical Brazil.

 

[Cule4life]

F*** OFF PEP! We learned our lesson from Thiago, if he likes Arthur so much why doesn't he come back to Barca the bald coward.

Messigician's boss: guys im here to give you a pep talk

Messigician: pep the bald coward and his fans like you are pathetic

Stunned silence....

 

[Jcar]

I want to quote my own post. This is why i think that Arthur adapted so quickly

I see a lot of people asking how this kid assimilated the barça's style so fast while many experienced europeans players failed. To me is not his own style and talent alone, i believe that Gremio has a big role in that: Gremio is playing possession football. Gremio is trying to do his own interpretation of the tiki-taka, and is having sucess at that. They are once again, almost getting in the finals of the Libertadores (south-american UCL). They won against River-Plate in Argentina (first match of the semis). I said it one time and i wil say it again: From now on, we will see more and more Gremio players wearing our shirts in the next years.

Their youth-teams are also playing possession football, they are also coming to the professionals learning our way.

Bobsin is one of those that i would bet my money for the future.

This goal from 2015 (before Arthur) shows what i am saying:

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[xXKonan]

It's interesting looking at the Duo of Arthur-Rakitic and their roles once they were fully paired together.

One of the things I expected was Arthur to take a more conservative role like the old Xavi Role, while Rakitic filled in the Iniesta role of being a CAM, except being on the RCM instead of an LCM like Iniesta use to. I mean Rakitic has experience being a Attacking Midfielder at Sevilla where he had a lot of success.

But it seems both players rotate duties at times during the match and both often switch positions on the field with Rakitic being on the LCM side and Arthur being an RCM as well. At some points, you will see Rakitic play the Attacking CM while Arthur is a bit more reserved and another time Arthur will be pushing up while Rakitic sits back.

Midfield has been missing some of that flexibility for a while now. Unlike the Last couple of seasons where it felt like we had a predictable Midfield setup with very little Flexibility and even quality to get the best out of it and certain players.

 

[Blaugrana Bull]

Well, the Xavi comparisons are not too accurate. Xavi had excellent goal scoring ability for a midfielder, Arthur not so much. Xavi did get pushed around, as a tiny person, which is not a problem for Arthur. Xavi was more two-footed. Arthur is continuing to improve on defense, this is more important these days than it was in Xavi's prime.

Xavi never scored many goals and he almost never used his left foot. You should have watched him more closely.
I agree that his finishing was quite good when he got into the box but that was rare.

 

[Jadentheman]

I want to quote my own post. This is why i think that Arthur adapted so quickly

Who should we thank? Youth director?

 

[Jcar]

Grêmio Lost to River Plate right now. They failed to impose their game. They made the first goal and had 2-0, but River managed to make 2 goals in Brazil. 1-0 in Argentina for Grêmio and 2-1 for River today.

Important tô say that Grêmio played without Luan, Everton and Kanneman. That hurt them. VAR Gave a penalty tô River, that decided the game.

 

[El Trencaxarxes]

Xavi never scored many goals and he almost never used his left foot. You should have watched him more closely.
I agree that his finishing was quite good when he got into the box but that was rare.

Considering the relatively deep role he had, I don't think it's unfair to say that Xavi was a goalscoring threat. Obviously, he was never like Gerrard or Lampard, but he also never had that kind of role with both Gerrard and Lampard often making late runs into the area, and both of them often taking shots from the distance (far more often than Xavi ever did too, by the way). Xavi's role was always to dictate the play and create, so for him to score over 10 goals in a season on two occasions was really an excellent output for someone with his role. Other than Cesc - who was an excellent goal threat before arriving in Chelsea, and also had a much more offensive role with us than Xavi ever did - what other central midfielders in Barcelona's recent history scored as many goals as Xavi? Xavi had 14 in a season. The most Deco ever had was 10. The most Rakitic has ever had is 9. Cocu scored 12 and that was 20 years ago. Then there was Luis Enrique, but once again that was a completely different role than Xavi ever had, with him making an absurd number of aggressive runs forward and many late runs into the penalty area. So all things considered, I don't think it's unfair to say that Xavi was quite the goal threat.