Arthur

SeloBarca

Senior Member
Maybe these are their numbers added up to km/90min? Not very accurate in that case for the players not completing the whole game tho.

distance covered by 90 min and pass %
Arthur runs more than both Busquetes and Rakitic, and have higher passing %
Vidal ofc runs the most, but his passing is quite bad.
 

Total-Football

Senior Member
top three in the world in midfield. he plays behind mummies that s why he does not deliver through passes. xavi played behind restless bees ready to sting all match long.
 

Havesaks

Senior Member
distance covered by 90 min and pass %
Arthur runs more than both Busquetes and Rakitic, and have higher passing %
Vidal ofc runs the most, but his passing is quite bad.

You cant make that conclusion. Arthur runs more in first 70 minutes, but you need to compare how much Rakitic and Sergio run in the same time, run kms are normally dropping in later stages of the game. And arthur has a lot of time showed his stamnia is dipping hard after the 70. minutes. But i do think arthus running is more hard and exocting than rakitic and sergio running in the same speed all game long.
 

MTL_Barca

Well-known member
Arthur got subbed when he got tired, no way he could've kept the same km/min up for the whole game.

And Vidal knew he only has 20 min so there was no need to save energy for later.
 

PhilS

Active member
Great game, even though his shooting is currently zero and he should always be subbed. The team needs nothing more than what he is providing now.
 

SeloBarca

Senior Member
Arthur got subbed when he got tired, no way he could've kept the same km/min up for the whole game.

And Vidal knew he only has 20 min so there was no need to save energy for later.

Rakitic cant keep his stamina up either, is slower, and doesnt provide the same control in midfield.
Yet he does not get subbed.
 

SeloBarca

Senior Member
I was just talking about the stats, these just aren't accurate for players not going full 90 min.

I know what you mean but the "lack of stamina" argument when it comes to Arthur doesnt seem to be quite accurate.
Arthur stats will go down a bit, but would probably still be a bit higher.
He moves alot, not running, but repositions himself to make himself available for passes much more than Rakitic.

source please ?

obviously the vidal one is incorrect

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Vidals stat are a bit to high, he doesnt play much.
Yet its kinda what he does, he runs alot without the ball, but hes not the best when the team has the ball.
 

xXKonan

Senior Member
Having Arthur and De Jong, Plus Alena, Puig etc. Will come along way in having a Midfield that not only can keep possession and be press resistant but also have it become more involved in the attack like it use to and instead of just having the Midfield be water carriers for the Front three.
 

Arizona Scott

New member
I know what you mean but the "lack of stamina" argument when it comes to Arthur doesnt seem to be quite accurate.
Arthur stats will go down a bit, but would probably still be a bit higher.
He moves alot, not running, but repositions himself to make himself available for passes much more than Rakitic.



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Vidals stat are a bit to high, he doesnt play much.
Yet its kinda what he does, he runs alot without the ball, but hes not the best when the team has the ball.
Not just stamina, i dont discount rakitic gets worse playing a full game. But you have injury risk, we have to be more conservative with arthur and dembele with their muscle issues. Rakitic and busi i hope start getting much reduced shifts, but you can count on them to give a full shift without the same injury risk as others.

Like i said it would be much preferred if they start rotating games and rakitic doesn't have to play more than 70--sometimes it isnt possible when there are other players there is a bigger risk to keep then on the pitch. And coutinho has never been a full 90 player, so that is another if you use him. Sometimes by process of elimination rakitic stays out there even when certainly not best for him.
 

serghei

Senior Member
Having Arthur and De Jong, Plus Alena, Puig etc. Will come along way in having a Midfield that not only can keep possession and be press resistant but also have it become more involved in the attack like it use to and instead of just having the Midfield be water carriers for the Front three.

We'll need some major tactical changes to bring the ball up better, not only just individual names. There's a long discussion to be had about off the ball movement. Without a different manager how we play would differ only slightly. We could have Xavi and Iniesta circa 2011 and we still wouldn't play that much different from now.
 

EdmondDantes

New member
We'll need some major tactical changes to bring the ball up better, not only just individual names. There's a long discussion to be had about off the ball movement. Without a different manager how we play would differ only slightly. We could have Xavi and Iniesta circa 2011 and we still wouldn't play that much different from now.

It's because our core has aged. The movement off the ball isn't anywhere close to what it was during Xavi, Iniesta days. Even Busquets this season has looked a little bit leggy. It's a different era.
 

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