Arthur

[Alik]

If we want to see Aleñá being given opportunities next season, I don't think we should go for Arthur.

 

[BarcaJack]

Hope the money from selling our dead weights is enough to cover the transfer fee

 

[henias]

Honestly, his playstyle reminded me of Xavi. Wouldnt hurt to try. Sell Denis and Gomes and deadweights for Arthur. If Nobita pulls this off...

 

[Ghostmaster]

Arthur's passing accuracy in 27 starts for Gremio is 93.1%, no one in our squad, not even our CBs, have better percentage.

 

[Jombi]

In other topics people want Roberto as a 4th midfielder and here people are probably dreaming about Coutinho-Busi-Arthur-Dembele midfield.

Instead of clean sheets in 80% of our matches, we would soon return to 4:3, 3:3 and 0:3 matches all the time.

Coutinho is short and new.
Busi is slow.
Arrhur hasn't played a minute of European football.
And Dembele will learn how to close down and tackle in 2025.

Sounds promising.
Let's kick out Raki, Paulinho and guys who brought stability and let's go back to better passers but weaker defenders who failed 1001 times in the last couple of years.

If EV will stay as a coach, I think that a lot of guys here will be disappointed.
I don't see us playing too often with Coutinho-Messi-Luis-Dembele.

That would mean that only one out of Raki-Iniesta-Paulinho-Gomes would play.

Again, I doubt that EV will make a crazy turn suddenly, give up from defensive stability, play with 2 new guys and ruin what was working almost perfectly till now.

Arent you the one who want Griezmann as well? Do you seriously think EV can continue playing a 4 man midfield while having Griezmann, Suarez, Messi and Dembele as options up front? We all know what will happen. Defensive stability will be sacrificed to fit the new high wage attacking players.

 

[BBZ8800]

Arent you the one who want Griezmann as well? Do you seriously think EV can continue playing a 4 man midfield while having Griezmann, Suarez, Messi and Dembele as options up front? We all know what will happen. Defensive stability will be sacrificed to fit the new high wage attacking players.

For the beginning, I don't think that Dembele will make it here, so one "problem" solved (48 post's quotes incoming because of this line, lol).
Other than that, Coutinho-Rakitic-Busquets-Someone plus Messi-Suarez/Griezmman attack will work.

We will keep 442's midfield and defensive balance, plus we will have Coutinho the master in midfield plus Griezmann to rotate Cou/Luis/Messi in every game.

[MENTION=16942]BBZ8800[/MENTION]

Well of course it won't be a sudden change, but Busquets, Rakitic and Paulinho will be all 30 years old next season, we need to start thinking about replacing some of them and bringing 21 year old would rejuvenate the midfield. Also Arthur wouldn't be replacing Rakitic or Paulinho, most likely we'll see Denis and Gomes leaving this summer.

Iniesta is 34 and still a starter.
I don't see too much need to change 30 years olds.
Majority of them will play here until 32-33-34 age.

In the last few years, we already had 4 "attempts" of creating a new, young midfielder in:
Samper
Denis
Gomes
Alena
= the score is 0/4 for now, but we'll see what will happen with Alena

Samper and Alena were La Masia guys, had potential, knew the system, knew La liga and European football.
Yet, they didn't make it till now.
Denis is also a local guy and Gomes played in La Liga, and they didn't make it.

Then we have Arthur, with 1 good season in South America.
Zero European experience, zero La Liga experience, zero connections with Barca's system, plus he has some questionable physical skills.
I know, I know, Xavi was short and slow.
But he had insane IQ and technique, plus he came from La Masia.
So, he could have neutralized his weak physique with La Masia skills and IQ.

Also, about comments from previous pages how we want to loan him.
Well, of course.
Why are people surprised?
Arthur has zero European experience.
Guys like Alena and Samper struggle, so it is quite predictable that Arthur will have similar problems or even more problems than them.

On the other hand, if your midfield 4 will be: Coutinho-Busi-xx-Dembele, then for xx position we will have:
1. Rakitic
2. Paulinho
3. Gomes
4. Denis
5. Iniesta
6. Roberto
7. Alena
8. Arthur
9. Rafinha?
10. Samper?
11. Oriol?

People here think that we will sell Denis and Gomes. Fine.
Even then, we'll have:
1. Coutinho
2. Busquets
3. Dembele
4. xx:
xx is:
1. Rakitic
2. Paulinho
3. Iniesta
4. Roberto
5. Alena
6. Arthur

A young player like Alena or Arthur needs tons of playing time to develop.
Alena is playing at a Bteam.
Where will Arthur play?
Do you guys think that we will bench Paulinho, Rakitic and Iniesta so that young Arthur may develop?
That will never happen.

So guys, be prepared for years of loans for Arthur, Deulofeu's style.

Also, with Coutinho and Messi, we will be favorites NO1 in a CL. We will need to play with 100% in the next 2-3 years.
Do you think that coaches will pair Messi and Coutinho with proven guys like Rakitic&Paulinho or with a young guy like Arthur?

 

[Horatio]

For the beginning, I don't think that Dembele will make it here, so one "problem" solved (48 post's quotes incoming because of this line, lol).

First!

 

[DonAK]

Wall of text with more scenarios based on the wonderful mathematical formula named: BBZs imagination

Einstein would be proud

I wonder BBZ, why you said Dembele was a better fit than Neymar, that he would do well and that he need time in September.

Do voices inside your head tell you to change your opinions based on the weather or how we are doing or.....?

 

[Nothanks]

can we hire someone to dedicate his or her time to do a tldr summary?
this shit is getting out of control

 

[DonAK]

can we hire someone to dedicate his or her time to do a tldr summary?
this shit is getting out of control

Need to write a book.

"How to judge a player based on three games..
..after I initally approved him"

Or "How one player is the reason a team full of 22 players won't win the CL and the direct reason your rival is winning"

Teams would be lining up to sign up for such wisdom. So much money used on advanced metrics and analysis. What's the use of that when one man can analyze every possible scenario in his head!

 

[Ghostmaster]

[MENTION=16942]BBZ8800[/MENTION]

Barto said that he, Roberto and Valverde are working together on transfers, if we are really getting him this means it's happening with Valverde's blessing and he knows what to do with him. You are presuming that Arthur will be forced upon Valverde and he'll have to change his system, but maybe he is actually asking for this kind of player for his system to work properly.

 

[Horatio]

BBZ was right to have faith in Valverde from the start, I'll give him that. But could have been a moment of weakness.

 

[Jombi]

For the beginning, I don't think that Dembele will make it here, so one "problem" solved.

No problem solved. Dembele will surely get a season to actually prove himself, something you are not willing to give. That means EV will NOT play 4 midfielders when he has Griezman, Suarez, Messi and Dembele as forwards. They will demand to play and their huge wage demands it as well! You have to choose. Either 442 or Griezmann.

 

[Hamzah]

Need to write a book.

"How to judge a player based on three games..
..after I initally approved him"

Or "How one player is the reason a team full of 22 players won't win the CL and the direct reason your rival is winning"

Teams would be lining up to sign up for such wisdom. So much money used on advanced metrics and analysis. What's the use of that when one man can analyze every possible scenario in his head!

BBZ is usually right

Also your way of talking to others is very strange and hostile

 

[FCBfan22]

No problem solved. Dembele will surely get a season to actually prove himself, something you are not willing to give. That means EV will NOT play 4 midfielders when he has Griezman, Suarez, Messi and Dembele as forwards. They will demand to play and their huge wage demands it as well! You have to choose. Either 442 or Griezmann.

Dembele will play and advanced RM in 442 probably.