Arthur

[serghei]

About media and fake news, a million dollar question:
1. Can you offer one logical reason why would papers invent stories ONLY about a poor, innocent Arthur?

That's obviously not true. These things usually come in sprees. It's how media works. Arthur is injured, he has a lot of free time, and any bullshit news about what he does in his free time is possibly true. I mean, the guy doesn't play football, doesn't train, so of course he is riding scooters in speed, doing snowboarding. Next thing you know he's doing bungee-jumping or whatever. Right now, Arthur is an easy target. Just like Messi was an easy target for fake news when Argentina was doing badly. Things appeared in the media about how Messi decides who plays, on what positions, and who is called or not at the NT.

A fake news isn't made up from thin air without some conditions being there to support the theory. It's like lying in a credible way. A credible lie has 70-80% matching with real events. It's the other 20% that is changed and invented and fitted to form the falsehood of a report.

Can't believe I have to give you guys the recipe for scandal news reporting and the spreading of rumors. Serious people don't believe this stuff. I barely read them or take notice of them unless it becomes something clear. "Arthur rode his scooter in the streets" Boofuckingwho. That's news? Same echelon of news reporting with Kim Kardashian wearing a new Rolex .

 

[xXKonan]

The radio station that claimed Arthur had an STD is known for jokes and dark humor and nothing really to do with actual real facts.

Basically people were gullible enough to believe what they said and here we are.

 

[serghei]

The radio station that claimed Arthur had an STD is known for jokes and dark humor and nothing really to do with actual real facts.

Basically people were gullible enough to believe what they said and here we are.

So... he doesn't have an STD after all? After all the fuss about it?

 

[xXKonan]

So... he doesn't have an STD after all? After all the fuss about it?

I mean if it were true then why didn't any serious Catalan media say about it?

I mean before people say "But they are covering the clubs ass!" Nah these clowns have no qualms about throwing certain players under the bus if needed. Some of these guys like Francesc Aguilar who is a known Rakitic ball licker and has shit on Arthur a number of times didn't even touch the stupid Arthur has an STD story.

 

[BBZ8800]

I mean if it were true then why didn't any serious Catalan media say about it?

I mean before people say "But they are covering the clubs ass!" Nah these clowns have no qualms about throwing certain players under the bus if needed. Some of these guys like Francesc Aguilar who is a known Rakitic ball licker and has shit on Arthur a number of times didn't even touch the stupid Arthur has an STD story.

Weren't you claiming the same one year ago that Sport is spreading fake news against Dembele and that they clearly have an agenda for no apparent reason against a poor kid?

 

[serghei]

Weren't you claiming the same one year ago that Sport is spreading fake news against Dembele and that they clearly have an agenda for no apparent reason against a poor kid?

Some of the news are true. We're not saying every news reported about these players is fake or false. But some are. The stories which appear in reputable journals and are backed either by known sources, or backed with fotos, videos etc. are probably true. But the stories coming from some secret hush-hush sources, about very intimate things regarding players, that are not backed with anything coming from anywhere else other than these 'secret' sources are probably fake or questionable at least.

 

[serghei]

It's foolish to take scandal news in 2020 as if they're automatically true. Especially regarding subjects about the private life of celebrities, where the possibility of made-up news is huge. Since these stars almost never bother to sue.

I tell you from experience quality journalism is incredibly hard work (I did investigative journalism for my degree). These online newspapers, marca, as, sport, they run hundreds of news daily. More than half of the articles have no real journalistic value, some are made-up, the majority of them are rumors which are never verified (which means these sites do the job of some sources having a direct interest into a subject being presented in a certain way), or pieces of random info made to look like news, some are rehashed junk.

These guys posting stories on marca, as, sport or whatever, these are by-the-numbers journalists. Quantity over quality, no journalistic ethic whatsoever. Most of these stories have a lifespan of 1 day.

 

[MTL_Barca]

With how long he is out the STD wouldn't be the reason anyway.

 

[Ernesto GOATverde Tejedor]

It's foolish to take scandal news in 2020 as if they're automatically true. Especially regarding subjects about the private life of celebrities, where the possibility of made-up news is huge. Since these stars almost never bother to sue.

I tell you from experience quality journalism is incredibly hard work (I did investigative journalism for my degree). These online newspapers, marca, as, sport, they run hundreds of news daily. More than half of the articles have no real journalistic value, some are made-up, the majority of them are rumors which are never verified (which means these sites do the job of some sources having a direct interest into a subject being presented in a certain way), or pieces of random info made to look like news, some are rehashed junk.

These guys posting stories on marca, as, sport or whatever, these are by-the-numbers journalists. Quantity over quality, no journalistic ethic whatsoever. Most of these stories have a lifespan of 1 day.

Right but what's arguably more important than if these stories are true is if people BELIEVE they are true. And unfortunately that belief seems to be more based upon how much people like the player rather than the probability of the news event being true.

Arthur is clearly benefiting from being a fans favourite just as Dembele did exactly a year ago. Had these same stories came up regarding Rakitic or Suarez and you can guarantee they both would have been universally castigated. That's the problem.

Not trying to be argumentative but you are very quick to jump on unsubstantiated rumours regarding Valverde. But again the whole world is guilty of the same. The primary lije/dislike of a person rules over how they interpret news about that person.

 

[serghei]

Not trying to be argumentative but you are very quick to jump on unsubstantiated rumours regarding Valverde. But again the whole world is guilty of the same. The primary lije/dislike of a person rules over how they interpret news about that person.

Like what? Did I say scandalous things about Valverde's family or what he does in his private life? Almost everything I say about him is related to football, based on what he's done as a manager on the field. Not who he may have fucked, if ever drove faster than the speed limit, what he does in his vacations, and things like that. I don't give a shit about these things.

I did say once that the biggest managerial decision he ever took was to convince his wife to change the toothpaste brand, but that was a joke.

 

[Rory]

Same people here who believe the trash said about Arthur (or any other player for that matter) are the same who in the UK read the S*n and Daily Mail and believe that all problems are caused by immigrants and single mothers on benefits. How I pity that mindset. If there's genuine proof of this STD then fine he's an idiot but there's no way he'd be out for this long with that. All that's happened is they've seen he parties every now and then with known arsehole Neymar, so to sell stories these "news"papers have looked at the fact his groin is injured (HAHA SO FUNNY BECAUSE PEEPEE IS IN THAT AREA) and so have made up he got an STD.

 

[FCBarca]

Absolutely. Remains incredibly amusing to me that there are still people linking his absence to an STD, it's a medical impossibility to be sidelined for that long from any STD apart from HIV

He purportedly improved from last season's inadequate level of professionalism taking care of his body so I am more inclined to think he has simply relapsed a bit in that regard. Particularly when you consider Valverde is entrusted to maintain the team's focus, health & training. Blind leading the bind

 

[George_Costanza]

With how long he is out the STD wouldn't be the reason anyway.

True, he should've been fine within a week of treatment. The midfield is suffering without him.

 

[Blaugrana1]

sorely missed, as usual

 

[tacticvarium]

It's sad that a team like Barça now has to desperately rely on this dumb unprofessional Brazilian to make a half decent, competitive midfield.