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vegitot

Senior Member
There has already been article posted in Mavericky thread that explains the "Puig effect" better than anything this forums smartasses ever speculated and it's backed up with actual analysis and stats. Stop wasting your time and trying too hard, buffoon. :lol:

Like compare to Moriba who is 3 years younger lol.
 

vegitot

Senior Member
Possible Explanations of the Puig Effect
So why would this effect even happen? Let's explore.

Alternate Realities
One theory about the basis for the Puig effect originates from quantum physics and relates to the idea that rather than one timeline of events, it is possible that alternate realities or universes are taking place and mixing with our timeline. In theory, this would result in groups of people having the same memories because the timeline has been altered as we shift between these different realities.

You aren't alone if you think this sounds a little unrealistic. Unfortunately, the idea of alternate realities is unfalsifiable, meaning that there is no way to truly*disprove that these other universes*don?t*exist.

This is why such a far-fetched theory continues to gain traction among the Puig effect communities. You can't prove it's not real, so you can't totally discount the possibility of it. For many people, the excitement of a bit of mystery to everyday life also likely comes into play. In an alternative reality Puig may indeed be a top 5 midfielder in the world.

False Memories
A more likely explanation for the Puig effect involves false memories. Before we consider what is meant by false memories, let's look at an example of the Puig effect as it will help us to understand how memory can be faulty (and may lead to the phenomenon that we are describing).

Why didn?t Tito Vilanova play Thiago Alcantara? Most Barca fans believed that Thiago would be the successor of Xavi and Iniesta. However, when the opportunity came for his breakthrough then Barcelona manager Tito Vilanova never played him. Why?

If we consider a simple neuroscience explanation, the memory for Thiago Alcantara is encoded in an area of the brain where the memories for Barcelona DNA midfielders are stored. The*means by which memory traces are stored*is called the engram and the framework in which similar memories are*associated*with each other is called the schema.

So when people try to recall Thiago, this sets off the neurons*in close connection to each other, bringing with it the memory of Barcelona DNA and not being given his chance. (Though this is an oversimplified explanation, it illustrates the general process.)

When memories are recalled, rather than remembered perfectly, they are influenced to the point that they can eventually become incorrect. In this way, memory is unreliable and not infallible. In reality, Thiago didn?t play not because the manager didn?t believe in him, but because he was injured for much of the season.

Memory-Related Concepts
This leads to the likelihood that problems with memory, and not alternate universes, are the explanation for the Puig effect. In fact, there are a number of subtopics related to memory that may play a role in this phenomenon.

Here are a few possibilities to consider:

* Confabulation: Confabulation involves your brain filling in gaps that are missing in your memories to make more sense of them. This isn't lying, but rather remembering details that never happened. Confabulation tends to increase with age.
* Post-event information: Information that you learn after an event can change your memory of an event. This includes event subtle information and helps to explain why the eye test in football can be unreliable.
* Priming: Priming describes the factors leading up to an event that affects our perception of it. Also called suggestibility and presupposition, priming is the difference between asking how short a person is, versus how tall a person is. Saying, "Did you see the impact Puig made when he come on?" instead of ??Puig?s substitution?? makes a subtle suggestion that influences response and memory.

In essence, memories are vulnerable bits of information stored in the brain that can be changed over time. While we assume that our memories are accurate, this is not necessarily the case.



Part III: Final Part to be posted tonight.

Where is final part???
 

Porque

Senior Member
Where is final part???

The Internet's Impact
The role of the internet in influencing the memories of the football fans should not be underestimated. It's probably no coincidence that consideration of the Puig effect has grown in this digital age.

The internet is a powerful way to spread information, and with this spreading of information comes the potential for misconceptions and falsehoods to gain traction. People then begin to create rhetorics based around these falsehoods and what was once in the imagination starts to seem factual.

In fact, in a large study of over 100,000*posts discussed across Barcaforum, conducted over a period of 10 years, showed that hoaxes and rumors won out over the truth every time by about 70%.1 This wasn't the result of manipulation or Messigician either?real verified accounts of real people were responsible for spreading false information.

This notion of the speed with which false information spreads on the internet could help to explain the Puig effect.
As each person chimes in with their own opinion or memory of a match, those false memories could affect the memories of other people, thus coloring them to remember the match in the same way.

For example, Puig did star in the match against Alaves, which could explain the association with Barcelona playing better when Puig plays. The reality is that Trincao also started that match and scored 2 of the goals. The only other match Trincao started since then Puig didn?t play and Barcelona still won 3-0.

When one person mentioned Puig versus Alaves, it altered the memories of other people who tried to recall that match. Online posts spread this information until it appeared to be factual.

This explanation is supported by evidence that remembering something repeatedly builds your confidence in the memory even if it grows more inaccurate over time. As more and more people provided incorrect details, these become incorporated into other people's memories as facts and strengthened their conviction that they were correct.

A Final Word
The Puig effect continues to be hotly debated, despite reasonable evidence that it is more likely explained in terms of the fallibility of human memory than some form of parallel universes at work.

Of course, we don't know everything. As more incidents of the Puig effect continue to occur, perhaps more research into the origins will shed light on the causes.
 

FCBarca

Mike the Knife
Nonsensical rant by @Porque. Memory has had little to do with the case of Thiago unless some of you simply have forgotten that Rosell pushed for his sale and the only way to ensure his departure was to allow the release clause to drop to something more reasonable should he fail to make sufficient appearances - that was the basis for not being played by Roura or Tito. If you think Pep couldn?t work with or prevent Rosell from dictating sporting decisions then there was never going to be any chance Tito could
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
Nonsensical rant by @Porque. Memory has had little to do with the case of Thiago unless some of you simply have forgotten that Rosell pushed for his sale and the only way to ensure his departure was to allow the release clause to drop to something more reasonable should he fail to make sufficient appearances - that was the basis for not being played by Roura or Tito. If you think Pep couldn?t work with or prevent Rosell from dictating sporting decisions then there was never going to be any chance Tito could

Usual nonsense.

Pep said why he left and it wasnt control. He had full control or as close as can get.

The clause for Thiago was never about the board inserting it to sell him. That makes zero sense and all it does is allow for less of a transfer fee when sold. The board did not interfere at all on Thiagos playing time or pushed for him to be sold. Complete fabrication.
 

vegitot

Senior Member
It seems that Juventus want to sell him this summer.
Will he follow Xavi's footstep as playing at Qatar??? To become the truly next Xavi???
 

Zidane82

Well-known member
It seems that Juventus want to sell him this summer.
Will he follow Xavi's footstep as playing at Qatar??? To become the truly next Xavi???

I loved watching him and he did play a little like Xavi .
Just think the injuries didn?t help plus I?m not sure he is dedicated enough
 

Devils

Senior Member
The worst midfielder I have ever seen.

Let's hope this guy goes back to where he belongs, in the streets of Brazil washing cars.
 

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