Arthur

Raketa10

Senior Member
It's clear he is a flop at least for now. Unfortunately we can't count on him at all. We seriously need to stop buying Brazilians! FFS now we can't sell Vidal :facepalm:
 
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Raketa10

Senior Member
Jesus, the overreaction xD

It's not overreaction. We can't rely on him and that's a fact. This guy is having constant problems with his stamina and injuries for year and a half now and it's clear that he hasn't improved his physique at all. If you don't find that being a problem than I don't know what to say anymore.
 
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Barcilliant

Senior Member
What about B team midfielders?

Alex Collado for example. Wague or Semedo at right back. Roberto, Busi, Rakitic, Puig and maybe a B team player. That's 5 there. Shitverde always complaining about too many men midfielders so he should be happy now.
 

putogusiluz8

The Pale One
Lol, how is he a flop? We can sell him for profit in 10 days if we announce he is on the market.

Apart from the fact he is just 23, think of how much more football we can get out of him and he's yet to reach his best level. Would be a mistake to sell him.
 

boixos

New member
Lol, how is he a flop? We can sell him for profit in 10 days if we announce he is on the market.

I think you severely overestimate the amount of clubs who are willing to sacrifice the strength, stamina, and physical conditioning of a player for a few vain Xavi turns.
 

Nazario1985

Senior Member
Lol, how is he a flop? We can sell him for profit in 10 days if we announce he is on the market.

You forgot in your calculus the period he is in the club and SHOULD be profitable during it i.e bring something, but if he is not playing !!

Ex (not Arthur) : Buying a guy at 100M ==> no play/flop/too much injuries/ghost ==> selling him 3 years later at 110M IS NOT a profit !! it's like saying selling him at 100M is no harm done
 

mc_lovin

Senior Member
What are you even talking about. You would have written Iniesta off who had injury issues as well? Right now Arthur is pretty much even regarding cost/gain. Hes the least of our problems, we just need a decent backup in the mold of prime Keita for example (while getting rid of the real deadwood).
 

BBZ8800

Senior Member
What are you even talking about. You would have written Iniesta off who had injury issues as well? Right now Arthur is pretty much even regarding cost/gain. Hes the least of our problems, we just need a decent backup in the mold of prime Keita for example (while getting rid of the real deadwood).

I don't get the comparison...

Iniesta:
Age 21: 46 matches for Barca
Age 22: 49 matches
Age 23: 56 matches
Age 24: 49 matches

Since 13th April of 2019, Arthur played only 348 minutes in 11 last matches of our 2018/19 season=348/990=35,1% of time on a field.
This season: 919 minutes in 24 matches=919/2160 minutes=42,5%.
Since reports say that he will miss the whole January when we will play 4 matches, that will go up to: 919 minutes played/out of 2520 minutes possible=36,5% of time played in this season.
Total from April 2019-end of January 2020: 1267 minutes played/3510 possible=36,1% of time

Also, in the last 35 matches of Barca (since 13th April 2019), Arthur managed to stay on a field for longer than 75 minutes: 6 times in 35 matches or 6 times over 10 Months, lol.
 

mc_lovin

Senior Member
Fair enough, I remebered Iniesta with far bigger injury issues (wrongly so apparantly). Doesnt change that Arthur can very well overcome his issues (or not and be a sidenote). 1-2 seasons is not an awful lot of time to give up on a quality player.
 

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