Arturo Vidal
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GOAT_SUAREZ
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Vidal is injured?
Donauwelle
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In the last weeks he was already doing parts of the training with the guys - and partly alone with the fitness coach.
xXKonan
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Well he is recovering from the knee injury he got several months ago.
MTL_Barca
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Had a knee surgery
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El Gato
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Don't really think he "needs to". Considering you now have 4 CMs excluding Coutinho for max 3 positions (provided you even go with 4-3-3 with Coutinho as LW) at any given time his squad stock isn't going to be that high in the first place. Don't think he'll play that many minutes, unless shit blows up in Valverde's face and he just alienates more people than he helps. I for one think having a loose cannon like him among a team of pretty boy football idealists spearheaded by a good cop and a bad cop is a dynamic that will help you. A lot depends on the relationship Valverde will build with him. If he manages to make him stay off the booze then it'll be fine.
Arizona Scott
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Hello All, been a lurking to Barcaforum a long time and Barca fan over a decade, and decided to post.
I think Arturo Vidal is an excellent signing and I agree with the sentiment he add a competitive/firey edge sorely needed. In truth he probably should have been red carded (two yellows) the Barca Juve CL final years ago (3-4 yellow card worthy fouls with only one called)--however he is smart and might have played differently if he got a deserved early yellow. I have watched him a lot Chile, Juve and Bayern.
He is totally necc with the departure of Paulinho. He is a lot like him physically, but is a more skilled player, much better touches and vision, and much more versatile footballer. He can seem borderline reckless, but there is usually a purpose to it. I think he also is more of a leader and with that competitive/firey edge.
As for the poster would said it is a departure from Barca ideals and think they should strive to get back to just killing opponents when 2 levels better pure football--like the one to produce probably the three of 5 best club football teams/seasons, I think a reality check is in order. Those teams had generational players like Messi, Xavi and Iniesta as the core. That is what made that possible (and other world class players like Puyol, Pique, Busquets, Etoo, Alves and later Alba, Suarez, Neymar). That is unlikely to be duplicated and Real has been much better about winning CL games they shouldn't, beating more equal sides to them via gile and persavereness (and sometimes a little luck).
Preparing the team to beat you one way and only one way, and being so good to do it despite whatever tactics are designed to thwart it (with Messi, Ineista, Xavi countering anything in front of them), that is NOT a model I want to see Barca try to emulate. I think Barca needs to be much more pragmatic--there is only a few more years to capitalize of the last of these 3 generational talents--that all amazingly came from La Mesia and where probably no 3 players of this quality will ever again emerge from any clubs youth systems within a short span.
The bottom like is Barca had some incredible uninspired efforts in the CL the last 2 years--at Roma, at Juve, at PSG. (You can also go back to ties they shouldn't have a little bit further back such as vs Atletico). While I think cumulative season fatigue was part of it and coaches blame is part of it, it was also a remarkable complete implosion, lack of fighting spirit, and lack of leadership to let those games get out of hand. I think a player like Vidal reduces that risk of a team having a complete loss of edge. Even though he may not be what he once was and coming off a knee injury--this is a wise short term acquisition that may prove very important in a handful of really big moments--he not need to be used heavily.
I think Arturo Vidal is an excellent signing and I agree with the sentiment he add a competitive/firey edge sorely needed. In truth he probably should have been red carded (two yellows) the Barca Juve CL final years ago (3-4 yellow card worthy fouls with only one called)--however he is smart and might have played differently if he got a deserved early yellow. I have watched him a lot Chile, Juve and Bayern.
He is totally necc with the departure of Paulinho. He is a lot like him physically, but is a more skilled player, much better touches and vision, and much more versatile footballer. He can seem borderline reckless, but there is usually a purpose to it. I think he also is more of a leader and with that competitive/firey edge.
As for the poster would said it is a departure from Barca ideals and think they should strive to get back to just killing opponents when 2 levels better pure football--like the one to produce probably the three of 5 best club football teams/seasons, I think a reality check is in order. Those teams had generational players like Messi, Xavi and Iniesta as the core. That is what made that possible (and other world class players like Puyol, Pique, Busquets, Etoo, Alves and later Alba, Suarez, Neymar). That is unlikely to be duplicated and Real has been much better about winning CL games they shouldn't, beating more equal sides to them via gile and persavereness (and sometimes a little luck).
Preparing the team to beat you one way and only one way, and being so good to do it despite whatever tactics are designed to thwart it (with Messi, Ineista, Xavi countering anything in front of them), that is NOT a model I want to see Barca try to emulate. I think Barca needs to be much more pragmatic--there is only a few more years to capitalize of the last of these 3 generational talents--that all amazingly came from La Mesia and where probably no 3 players of this quality will ever again emerge from any clubs youth systems within a short span.
The bottom like is Barca had some incredible uninspired efforts in the CL the last 2 years--at Roma, at Juve, at PSG. (You can also go back to ties they shouldn't have a little bit further back such as vs Atletico). While I think cumulative season fatigue was part of it and coaches blame is part of it, it was also a remarkable complete implosion, lack of fighting spirit, and lack of leadership to let those games get out of hand. I think a player like Vidal reduces that risk of a team having a complete loss of edge. Even though he may not be what he once was and coming off a knee injury--this is a wise short term acquisition that may prove very important in a handful of really big moments--he not need to be used heavily.
FC433
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According to Bild, Vidal is going to cost 30m and earn 50% more than what he was earning. I hope that is not true.
https://www.bild.de/sport/fussball/arturo-vidal/wer-jetzt-den-krieger-machen-muss-56544348.bild.html
https://www.bild.de/sport/fussball/arturo-vidal/wer-jetzt-den-krieger-machen-muss-56544348.bild.html
Horatio
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At this point I don't care anymore. I myself at this point have concluded Barcelona has a field planted full with trees that grow money.
MTL_Barca
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Would be terrible, especially the salary. In the end its
probably somewhere in between that and what the catalan propaganda papers write with their super super low fees and stories of 50% pay cuts etc
EdmondDantes
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Bild are Bayern's mouthpiece and are almost always full of shit.
There were reports that Inter had agreed a fee of 18 million Euros to sign Vidal a day earlier than we signed him for the same reported 18 million. There's no reason for us to have shelled out nearly double.
He's 31, has not got long left in his contract, his knee is reportedly a concern, Bayern have a multitude of midfielders and wanted rid. None of this points to a 30 million sale.
30m transfer fee and 17m a year wage for 3 years? Thats over 80m for a 31-year old with a serious knee injury who relies on a physical style of play. I see that Kicker from Germany says the same. Since he also occupies a non-EU spot, he must be an important part of the team in the years ahead.
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