Ballon d'Or 2014

dakt

Active member
No really, can anyone explain what was that sound he made?
Maybe his evil mission here on planet earth has finally come to an end and is calling for his mothership? I don't know, just guessing...
 

KingMessi

SiempreBlaugrana
Please someone make that vine into a gif so I can use it as a daily reply in these forums.

UncommonUntriedAlligatorsnappingturtle.gif
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
I know... that argument was foiled when stats showed that Ozil and Di Maria assisted more of Ronaldo's goals in 2012 than Xavi/Iniesta did for Messi.

No it wasnt as no one ever thought Di Maria/Ozil were better team mated than Xavi/Iniesta.

So Cesc was Messi's best ever team mate? By your reckoning thats the case.
 

KingMessi

SiempreBlaugrana
No really, can anyone explain what was that sound he made?
Maybe his evil mission here on planet earth has finally come to an end and is calling for his mothership? I don't know, just guessing...

It was a bet with Marcelo.
 

Vilarrubi

New member
Sorry but that is garbage.

Ozil and Di Maria may have given Ronaldo more assists those seasons but they were not better team mates than Xavi/Iniesta. Unless you think Cesc has been easier for Messi to play with than Xavi/Iniesta ever were.

Cesc? What you on about? Ronaldo fans claimed Messi is only good because Xavi and Iniesta assist him... That argument was proven wrong. This current Barca midfield is non existent in attack. It's not an excuse it's a fact if you watch every game. (Bar the atletico game and a couple more games)
 

Icarium

Lifestealer
Ronaldo has a better year than messi? Yeah in team trophies and statistically. But when you compare both the players playing there is no doubt that leo is just a better footballer even last year. Real and Barca came head to head twice last season even with better team ronaldo failed to impact the game in any way. Ronaldo's impact on game is good (he is very efficient) but no where near messi right now. Messi drives barca, he needs to put in top game for barca to win. Ronaldo has a team working for him while messi is working for a team. That is how i look at it, it was not always like this before. Xavi and Iniesta used to help a lot but since 2012 no one is helping leo. I hope this year it will be different. Neymar and Suarez should help messi reach top again.
 

Vilarrubi

New member
No it wasnt as no one ever thought Di Maria/Ozil were better team mated than Xavi/Iniesta.

So Cesc was Messi's best ever team mate? By your reckoning thats the case.

You're missing the point. I personally (Or Barca fans) never thought Ozil and Di Maria were better than Xavi and Iniesta.. that stat was just a response to Ronaldo fans claiming Messi was only good because of them.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
Cesc? What you on about? Ronaldo fans claimed Messi is only good because Xavi and Iniesta assist him... That argument was proven wrong. This current Barca midfield is non existent in attack. It's not an excuse it's a fact if you watch every game. (Bar the atletico game and a couple more games)

You are basing everything on assists and that making it that Ozil/Di Maria were a bigger benefit to Ronaldo than Xavi/Iniesta were to Messi.

By that rule Cesc has been easier for Messi to play with than Xavi/Iniesta ever were.

Its not all about direct assists.

You are so wrong its absurd.
 

KingMessi

SiempreBlaugrana
Ronaldo has a better year than messi? Yeah in team trophies and statistically. But when you compare both the players playing there is no doubt that leo is just a better footballer even last year. Real and Barca came head to head twice last season even with better team ronaldo failed to impact the game in any way. Ronaldo's impact on game is good (he is very efficient) but no where near messi right now. Messi drives barca, he needs to put in top game for barca to win. Ronaldo has a team working for him while messi is working for a team. That is how i look at it, it was not always like this before. Xavi and Iniesta used to help a lot but since 2012 no one is helping leo. I hope this year it will be different. Neymar and Suarez should help messi reach top again.

The thing is, the voters only look at the two on paper. And it's a damn travesty.
 

raskolnikov

Well-known member
I dont see why its so deserved either, Real's victory was a team victory and with a lot of luck. Ramos, Modric, Bale should all be thanked.
Ronaldo only has better stats, 3 more goals than Messi but besides that he was useless in the finals, invisible during the wc and invisible in most games but saves it by scoring 1/2 goals from his 8 shots per game.
So why does he deserve it so much despite a us president like pr campaign?
 

SwiftGuyver

New member
CR7 is genuinely unlikeable IMO.

the way he celebrates scoring a goal shows his personality better than anything - a cocky, arrogant, self obsessed, narcissistic douche...

he really does lack class. Henry's face says it all.

i bet winning the Ballon d'Or means more to him than winning the CL because it's all about him.

when fit Messi is the best individual player on the planet, the most skillful, the most potent, devastating goal scorer around but he's also the best playmaker. he's a better creative midfielder than top class players who specialise in that role (for example - David Silva).

by the time Leo retires he'll be the all time leader for goals & assists in both La Liga & CL and noone will be close.
 

Zebulun

Senior Member
I dont see why its so deserved either, Real's victory was a team victory and with a lot of luck. Ramos, Modric, Bale should all be thanked.
Ronaldo only has better stats, 3 more goals than Messi but besides that he was useless in the finals, invisible during the wc and invisible in most games but saves it by scoring 1/2 goals from his 8 shots per game.
So why does he deserve it so much despite a us president like pr campaign?

Well his campaign was superior to anyone else's. this guy got an entire stadium to wear ronaldo masks, got florentino to make the right calls. Everyday they kept talking about how he "deserved" to win it. at this point madrid own the media and this bdor is just a fruit of their corruption and power.
 

poldep

New member
Ronaldo has a better year than messi? Yeah in team trophies and statistically. But when you compare both the players playing there is no doubt that leo is just a better footballer even last year. Real and Barca came head to head twice last season even with better team ronaldo failed to impact the game in any way. Ronaldo's impact on game is good (he is very efficient) but no where near messi right now. Messi drives barca, he needs to put in top game for barca to win. Ronaldo has a team working for him while messi is working for a team. That is how i look at it, it was not always like this before. Xavi and Iniesta used to help a lot but since 2012 no one is helping leo. I hope this year it will be different. Neymar and Suarez should help messi reach top again.

I totally agree!
 

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