Barca elections 2015

[Flavia]

For someone who doesn't speak Catalan or Spanish, can someone tell me if our revenue has grown compared to last year's? If so, by how much?

Well, we only have three sources of income: (1) TV rights and match day sales (2) General merchandise sales and (3) Sponsorship and commercial deals. Not saying this in defense of Bartomeu's regime at all, just asking, how different could the model be?

Lower wages, for instance. Compare rm's to Barça's and you'll see the difference.

Another problem is rosell's plataform was based on austerity, as they used to say Laporta left the club in a big debt(which was proven to be not true later on). And now, 5 years later, the net debt increased, and the income has stagnated. Nothing improved.

 

[JamDav1982]

Lower wages, for instance. Compare rm's to Barça's and you'll see the difference.

Another problem is rosell's plataform was based on austerity, as they used to say Laporta left the club in a big debt(which was proven to be not true later on). And now, 5 years later, the net debt increased, and the income has stagnated. Nothing improved.

Net debt increased since last year not since 2010.

How can it be claimed that there is an issue with finances now when in comparison they have decreased net debt in their time compared to Laporta who increased it quite dramatically in his last few years.

Whoever wins election is going to have an easy job increasing the revenue. From shirt sponsorship and manufacturing could see an increase of close to 100m alone. It is about timing.

 

[Barcaman]

Marca on Barca 2015 presidential debate

Josep Maria Bartomeu's fear of debates proved unfounded: he rolled with the punches on Tuesday night.Toni Freixaspoke brilliantly, whileJoan Laporta was erratic.


Bartomeu drew first blood and then defended himself creditably
The most recent president caused a stir early on by dubbing Laporta's programme "very simple". He was practically never against the ropes, tempering the Neymar affair through his use of legal jargon, dodging the FIFA ban and defending his record with La Masia through stats. The Qatar issue was where he most suffered. He didn't offer much by the way of new projects, but still came out the winner.

Laporta not aggressive enough to corner Bartomeu
The lawyer warmed up as the night wore on, but wasted time. He cut an assured figure, always smiling and speaking with conviction, but was missing a good plan of attack. His highlight came when comparing the current model to Florentino Pérez's approach.

Agustí Benedito not up to scratch
Debates were supposed to be one of Benedito's strengths: they were key in him getting 8,000 votes in the last elections. However, he lacked spark and looked tired. For much of the time he was a mere spectator while his rivals went at it. His best moment was during the discussion about Qatar.


Freixa won over plenty of new fans
The big surprise. He kept on point, while bringing lots of ideas to the table. He landed a hit when explaining how Bartomeu didn't consult the board about vital decisions and offered a good analysis of the interrupted talent conveyor belt from La Masia and the over-spending on transfers. He ruffled Bartomeu's feathers when associating him with Real Madrid by comparing the club's recent operations to the 'Galáctico' policy.

(marca)

 

[Flavia]

Madrid media is supporting barto from the begining. Another bad sign, imo.
Saying that about Benedito makes them lose credibility, as he was the best hands down. And Bartomeu looked lost most of the time. Saying he's indicted by a crime that Barça commited was one of the absurds he said under pressure.

 

[DonAK]

Bartomeu was clearly the worst yesterday. Guy got so nervous

Benedito the best then Frexia.

 

[Barcaman]

Madrid media is supporting barto from the begining. Another bad sign, imo.

That's why AS has Laporta as favorite in their poll

 

[Flavia]

That's why AS has Laporta as favorite in their poll

Polls open for the public don't mean much, and you know it...
That's why marca is publishng things like that one you posted. Same as grupo godó is doing. Completely biased towards barto, for anyone who watched the debate.
Or do you think Barto is right in blaming Barça, the club, for his indictment?

As also published Benedito would send Arda back to atletico, when he never said that.

 

[Xtroverto]

Man, every candidate is either corrupt (Laporta), criminal (Bartomeu) or a wimp (Freixa). Benedito doesn't convince me at all, I had hoped Jordi Majó could have done more as he is the only one that to me felt credible, all the others are either liars or pathological liars.

 

[MessiDinho10]

Man, every candidate is either corrupt (Laporta), criminal (Bartomeu) or a wimp (Freixa). Benedito doesn't convince me at all, I had hoped Jordi Majó could have done more as he is the only one that to me felt credible, all the others are either liars or pathological liars.

Laporta corrupt? That title already belongs to Bartomeu imo. Jordi Majo is one of those knobheads who wanted to sell Messi, no thanks. I think you mean Jordi Farré.

 

[JamDav1982]

Polls open for the public don't mean much, and you know it...
That's why marca is publishng things like that one you posted. Same as grupo godó is doing. Completely biased towards barto, for anyone who watched the debate.
Or do you think Barto is right in blaming Barça, the club, for his indictment?

As also published Benedito would send Arda back to atletico, when he never said that.

The press can only have a limited impact on these elections.

There is nothing that people wont know or have seen from that debate that they will greatly change their mind on through the press.

Even then I dont think it is all as one sided as you make out.

 

[Barcaman]

Laporta is corrupt and used and will use the club for personal gain and his political promotion and agenda. What's worse, he doesn't look prepared at all. Just empty phrases and recycling old glory.

 

[Flavia]

The press can only have a limited impact on these elections.

There is nothing that people wont know or have seen from that debate that they will greatly change their mind on through the press.

Even then I dont think it is all as one sided as you make out.

No, it's not... saying barto won a debate he lost(I watched it, and everyone else who did is saying the same) is not one sided, at all

Also, what's your comment about Barto saying he is indicted because of a crime BARÇA commited? I haven't seen that.
I'd also like to know your thoughts on Bartomeu using the club email newsletter and official correspondence to sent propaganda for him? Using the club for his personal gain and promotion.
Barto, who asked for fair play in the beginning of elections. Such a nice man.

I'm sure you'll find ways to twist everything and find excuses for him.

 

[JamDav1982]

No, it's not... saying barto won a debate he lost(I watched it, and everyone else who did is saying the same) is not one sided, at all

Also, what's your comment about Barto saying he is indicted because of a crime BARÇA commited? I haven't seen that.
I'd also like to know your thoughts on Bartomeu using the club email newsletter and official correspondence to sent propaganda for him? Using the club for his personal gain.
Barto, who asked for fair play in the beginning of elections. Such a nice man.

I'm sure you'll find ways to twist everything and find excuses for him.

Just a quick look at Marca and they also have another article which says Laporta won the debate and has him quoted as saying they have turned the numbers around.

So again its not all as one sided as you make out.

 

[Flavia]

Just a quick look at Marca and they also have another article which says Laporta won the debate and has him quoted as saying they have turned the numbers around.

So again its not all as one sided as you make out.

It's one sided from grupo godó. Madrid media also prefers him. Check marca's cover for today, about the debate.
I'm still waiting on your comments about my other questions, though.

 

[JamDav1982]

It's one sided from grupo godó.
I'm still waiting on your comments about my other questions.

Okay so not one sided from Marca/Madrid media which is not a bad sign.

I think he was wrong to use the club to send out his leaflets and the comments I dont know the context of what was being said so struggle to have any real opinion on it.

What do you think about Laporta using club money to spy on players and officials and what do you think of Laporta using the club for personal gain etc?

Please dont use the cop out of 'im not a Laporta supporter' as I am not a Barto supporter either.