Trickykid
Active member
If two 3rd place finishes is what it takes, I'd be inclined to take that deal and run.
And yeah, you're absolutely right about the last part.
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If two 3rd place finishes is what it takes, I'd be inclined to take that deal and run.
And yeah, you're absolutely right about the last part.
serghei
Senior Member
I'd say Messi retiring will have a bigger effect.
KingMessi
SiempreBlaugrana
I wouldn't take that deal but you're right, so many Barça fans became fans after 2009 that it's unfathomable to them what it is to go without a trophy for a season or two.
Trickykid
Active member
You're probably right about that.
Yeah, and sooner or later we'll start to share the domestic trophies more evenly with RM... Rough times ahead.
ebieymjunior
Senior Member
[formation=barca,6]
MAtS
0-0-Piqué-0-Umtiti-0-0
Semedo-0-0-0-0-0-Alba
0-0-0-Busquets-0-0-0
0-0-Rakitic/Arthur-0-0-0-0
0-0-0-0-Coutinho-0-0
0-0-0-Messi-0-0-0
0-Dembélé-0-0-0-Griezmann-0
[/formation]
Basically a 4-3-3 structure.
When attacking 3-4-3: Busquets goes back, RB/LB in midfield
MAtS
0-0-Piqué-0-Umtiti-0-0
Semedo-0-0-0-0-0-Alba
0-0-0-Busquets-0-0-0
0-0-Rakitic/Arthur-0-0-0-0
0-0-0-0-Coutinho-0-0
0-0-0-Messi-0-0-0
0-Dembélé-0-0-0-Griezmann-0
[/formation]
Basically a 4-3-3 structure.
When attacking 3-4-3: Busquets goes back, RB/LB in midfield
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FC433
New member
My desired squad next season:
In: Arnaiz, Griezmann, Alena, Arthur, Pjanic, Samper, Cucurella and De Ligt
Out: Vermaelen, Digne, Iniesta, Gomes, Suarez, Vidal, Paco, Deulofeu, Rafinha and Douglas
Loan: Munir, Marlon and Turan (because we cannot sell him)
LW: Coutinho/ Arnaiz ST: Suarez/ Griezmann RW: Messi/ Dembele
LCM: Alena/ Arthur RCM: Rakitic/ Pjanic
CDM: Busquets/ Samper/ Paulinho
LB: Alba/ Cucurella LCB: Umtiti/ De Ligt RCB: Piqué/ Mina RB: Semedo/ Roberto
GK: GK: Stegen/ Cillessen
Yours?
In: Arnaiz, Griezmann, Alena, Arthur, Pjanic, Samper, Cucurella and De Ligt
Out: Vermaelen, Digne, Iniesta, Gomes, Suarez, Vidal, Paco, Deulofeu, Rafinha and Douglas
Loan: Munir, Marlon and Turan (because we cannot sell him)
LW: Coutinho/ Arnaiz ST: Suarez/ Griezmann RW: Messi/ Dembele
LCM: Alena/ Arthur RCM: Rakitic/ Pjanic
CDM: Busquets/ Samper/ Paulinho
LB: Alba/ Cucurella LCB: Umtiti/ De Ligt RCB: Piqué/ Mina RB: Semedo/ Roberto
GK: GK: Stegen/ Cillessen
Yours?
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FCBfan22
Senior Member
As things stand now, I would actually spend that 100 million on Eriksen and leave Griezmann at Atletico. Our midfield desperately needs renovation. Keep Coutinho, Rakitić, Busquets and Paulinho. Sell anyone else. Get in Eriksen and Arthur. With that, we would actually have a lot of different types of midfielders and variety.
With the remaining money, get a target man (age doesn't matter, the only thing that is important is that he is tall, strong, a box predator, good in the air, doesn't mind doing defensive duties and has a decent technique). We need that as a plan B. Sell Paco, promote Alena as Dembele backup.
Defence-wise, we are good right now. Ask Vermaelen, if he wants to stay another season. If not, sign a cb for 20-30 million. In 2019, we need to look for our LB options, but I think as things stand now, we can survive another year with Alba/Digne.
ebieymjunior
Senior Member
As things stand now, I'd go for
In: de Ligt, Arthur, Aleñá, Griezmann, Arnáiz
Out: Douglas, Palencia (buyback option), Gomes, Iniesta, Denis (buyback option), Rafinha, Vidal, Deulofeu, Munir (buyback option)
Loan: Mina, Marlon
GK: ter Stegen/Cillessen
RB: Semedo/Roberto - CB(R): Piqué/de Ligt - CB(L): Umtiti/Vermaelen - LB: Alba/Digne
CM(R): Rakitic/Arthur/Paulinho - DM: Busquets/Samper - CM(L): Coutinho/Aleñá
RW(RF): Dembélé/Alcácer - CF(ST): Messi/Suárez - LW(LF): Griezmann/Arnáiz
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Before transfer window starts, Valverde should decide what he wants to play next season and if he wants Dembele in the team. It s a vaste of money to have him as a second option. I understand, that he needed time to adjust plus he
was injured half of the season, but next year he should be in the first 11 or he shouldn t be in the club at all.
If he wants Dembele in the team, than Suarez shouldn t be in the best 11 as we can t afford 2 players with 0 defensive impact in the team and Messi should move
in the center. If Griezmann is done deal, the attack is set. Coutinho should play in MF with Alena as his backup. I don t think Eriksen is the right player to be paired up with him in a 3 man midfield. He is
of similar attacking profile.
was injured half of the season, but next year he should be in the first 11 or he shouldn t be in the club at all.
If he wants Dembele in the team, than Suarez shouldn t be in the best 11 as we can t afford 2 players with 0 defensive impact in the team and Messi should move
in the center. If Griezmann is done deal, the attack is set. Coutinho should play in MF with Alena as his backup. I don t think Eriksen is the right player to be paired up with him in a 3 man midfield. He is
of similar attacking profile.
SeloBarca
Senior Member
Its quite hard to fit in Dembele unless we play some really offensive 3-3-1-3 formation with Messi in a free role
Griezmann--Suarez---Dembele
--------------------Messi
------Coutinho
------------------Arthur
----------Busquetes
Messi is pretty much taking up Dembeles spot in any 4-3-3 formation
Griezmann--Suarez---Dembele
--------------------Messi
------Coutinho
------------------Arthur
----------Busquetes
Messi is pretty much taking up Dembeles spot in any 4-3-3 formation
Givenchy
Senior Member
-------------MaTS
Semedo-Pique-Umtiti-Alba
------------Busi-???
-----------Coutinho
Griezmann-Messi-Dembele
the ??? I'm not sure who we go for but someone with an engine. mark my words, if we go into next season with Busi, Coutinho and Raki in midfield, poor Busi will be left totally exposed.
Suarez can be a bench/impact sub, I love the guy but being realistic he cannot start next season.
Semedo-Pique-Umtiti-Alba
------------Busi-???
-----------Coutinho
Griezmann-Messi-Dembele
the ??? I'm not sure who we go for but someone with an engine. mark my words, if we go into next season with Busi, Coutinho and Raki in midfield, poor Busi will be left totally exposed.
Suarez can be a bench/impact sub, I love the guy but being realistic he cannot start next season.
I'd swap Suarez for Firmino in a heartbeat !
MTL_Barca
Well-known member
I don't think we would see Suarez, Griezmann, Messi, Dembele and Cou on the pitch at the same time very often. Even a manager that's not a scared little girl like Valverde wouldnt play that offensive.
I think it's more about playing 2 out of Griezmann, Suarez, Dembele next to Messi every game and have Cou on AM as an Iniesta replacement and only occasional in attack.
That also doesn't automatically mean one player doesn't start any (important)game ever. At least in theory because we still have Valverde as a coach after all.
If the coach can pull that off its almost perfect and the other players in attack can be la masia talents because we could always play with 3 world class attackers even when we rotate,/have injuries. Not gonna work forever but for 1-2 seasons it can work.
I think if we go for Grizmann it's not really because we need him now but about what's the next years, Suarez is already declining, Messi will too st one point and they probably don't want to be in a situation where we are forced to bring in a world class attacker and will get robbed again. Hell if the market continues like the last years we would end up paying like 200M for a world class striker in 1-2 years.
Considering how often we spent 30M here and 40M there for mediocre players then Griezmann for 100M is a great deal so i think we ho for it even without having a plan to play all of them.
It will be on Valverde, Dembele is still important for our future so we have to develop that kid even with Griezmann in. Hopefully a full pre season will help him there.
If we get Griezmann and get rid of Paco, Vidal (Deulofeu, possibly Munir) and then do the same with a new midfielder and Gomes, Denis the squad would look really good imo.
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