Barca Transfers and Rumors

[SeloBarca]

Seems like our Midfield reinforcements will be Arthur and De Jong.

Two good signings.

Busi/De Jong
Rakitic/Arthur
Coutinho/Paulinho/Alena

Looks a bit better atleast

 

[mia7007]

Good signing for the future, but we still need WC established midfielder for next season
Both Arthur and De Jong we cannot expect anything from them in their first season at their age

 

[DonAK]

De Jong is going to get loaned back to Ajax and Gremio are still playing hard ball about releasing Arthur this summer as they target another Libertadores win and want to win their league.

So people shouldn't get their hopes high about seeing both or any of them play for us soon.

would rather go

Arthur/De Jong (De Jong is more a DM though) - Coutinho
Dembele - Messi - Griezmann

De Jong might have played as a Libero due to necessity, but he's very much a CM/AM where his dribbling ability and creativity with his range of passing are his main weapons. He's not a DM.

 

[snowy]

Random question.

Would you guys rather go for option 1

Mats
Semedo - Pique - Umtiti - Alba
Busquets
Arthur/De Jong - Thiago
Dembele - Messi - Coutinho

or option 2

Mats
Semedo - Pique - Umtiti - Alba
Thiago/Arthur - Busquets
Dembele - Messi - Coutinho
Griezmann

Both would be great improvements, with option 2 being more attack focused.

Getting Frenkie + Thiago + Arthur would stack our MF in defensive depth.

On the attack side, I'd be stocked if we could add Savic & Zyiech.

+ someone like Koulibaly in CB

Valv would then have so many new options in addition to the 2 you posted.

Could go 3 3 4:

Pique - koulicool - umtiti
Busi
Frenkie (Arthur) - Thiago
Savic (Ziyech)
Dembele - Messi - Coutinho

For gogo gung ho attack, we could go with:

Pique - kouli - umtiti
Busi (arthur) - Thiago (Frenkie)
Ziyech (Savic)
Dembele - Messi - Coutinho
Griezmann

Ps. I'll always be a fan of Pistolero but somehow don't see him trade his yammi chivitos for 3 peas + tofu nouvelle cuisine. At 31, he still glows with WC superstar status. Now's the time to strike a 150 mil + deal with a Chinese club. C'mon Luisito, take one for the team!

 

[Luftstalag14]

Casteels is not Barca quality. Far from it.

 

[xXKonan]

Any backup we will sign will be a downgrade to Cillessen.

I haven't seen Casteels play to form a real opinion on him, but the question is would he come here? He's the same age as Stegen and at that age he would want to be playing a lot. But on the other hand, Cillessen was willing to come here despite knowing he won't be our number 1 and everyone knows how good he is.

Honestly if we are considering the idea of Cillessen leaving, why not someone like Ron-Robert Zieler?

 

[manuel blassi]

Whats the price of De Jong?

I like idea of having him, cause he could also cover our 4TH CB spot. With Umtiti, Pique, Lenglet and De Jong we would be set in that position. But sadly i think we will loan him back to Ajax. So I dont really see the point of buying him this year and spending much much needed money.

I like this idea of getting young promising guys like De Jong and Arhur, which could turn out to super good, but I just cant see them making great impact right from the year 1 with us. La Liga is huge upgrade for both of them+we know that Barca is the biggest specific to play for. Therefore, with them strugling we spent one of the last years of Messi beeing goat.

 

[El Barcelona]

I saw Casteels only when he played for Genk and that's more than 7years ago. Just keep cillissen if he wants to or someone offer his buy out, nothing less than that.

 

[snowy]

Whats the price of De Jong?

I like idea of having him, cause he could also cover our 4TH CB spot. With Umtiti, Pique, Lenglet and De Jong we would be set in that position. But sadly i think we will loan him back to Ajax. So I dont really see the point of buying him this year and spending much much needed money.

I like this idea of getting young promising guys like De Jong and Arhur, which could turn out to super good, but I just cant see them making great impact right from the year 1 with us. La Liga is huge upgrade for both of them+we know that Barca is the biggest specific to play for. Therefore, with them strugling we spent one of the last years of Messi beeing goat.

Best not to wait imo, lest he be signed by other clubs. He seems very solid. Why not give him a shot first before loaning him back to Ajax.
Think price for De Jong is 30 to 35 million euros.
Zyiech could be signed for 25 to 30 million euros.

Depending on much we could salvage from our exiting players, might be worth locking Koulibaly for 60 to 70 mil E. unless our scouts spotted a younger dominant CB...

Dunno if it's legally possible but would be good to add a contractual clause for each new signing granting us the right to force transfers as long as player's salary aren't lowered. Otherwise, we'd keep paying mega-salaries to perma-benched players who'd step on less grass than a polar bear. That shit is boogie

Also if possible, shift to bonus-based contracts. If player performs well, he'd get 20% more than on a fixed rate contract but if he flops, he'd get like... 30% _ thus boosting our ammo for the next Mercato. Can we do that?

And! board should be more savvy about rescue offers that comes their way

Speaking to Beyaz TV on Saturday, Turan said: "Last season, a club from China have offered €50m to Barcelona for me but they rejected it because I'm a long-term project."

unless he made it up!

 

[MTL_Barca]

Casteels is average, way worse than Cillessen imo but i guess that's a given if we replace him because it's hard to find such a good sub GK. But the point would be that this trade would result in 20-25 mil profit and personally i think that would be worth it.

If it doesn't happen it's fine too because we keep a great 2nd GK so i think we're in a good position here.

 

[Luftstalag14]

What is the point of having a backup keeper? If the No.1 keeper is injured he will have to step in. Is Casteels good enough if we suffer from something like what Bayern had last season? Can Casteels play 30+ league and CL games for us? The answer is clearly no.

This is not the time to think about making a profit.

 

[DonAK]

What is the point of having a backup keeper? If the No.1 keeper is injured he will have to step in. Is Casteels good enough if we suffer from something like what Bayern had last season? Can Casteels play 30+ league and CL games for us? The answer is clearly no.

This is not the time to think about making a profit.

How many good GKs will come to serve as a backup and only play cup games?

And yes, that's the only games a backup should play. You take away games from MAtS and he'll start kicking up a fuss as that is something that doesn't happen at any club.

 

[Luftstalag14]

How many good GKs will come to serve as a backup and only play cup games?

And yes, that's the only games a backup should play. You take away games from MAtS and he'll start kicking up a fuss as that is something that doesn't happen at any club.

I am not advocating for taking games away from Ter Stegen. I am saying the backup keeper needs to be good enough in case he needs to step in. Casteels is simply not good enough.

 

[Neeraj]

I wouldn't let Jasper leave unless it's a MUST, like if he had to be involved in a player + cash sort of deal and we wouldn't be able to get a key player without him leaving.

Let's say we make a profit of 20-25m, what the hell are we going to do with that? It's going to cost us almost as much to find a decent backup keeper, and even if we get one for free, 25m isn't exactly going to change our situation in the transfer market. Whereas not having a decent backup as opposed to having a great backup could really hurt us.

I just don't see any sense in selling him, unless the player himself absolutely wants out.

 

[DonAK]

I am not advocating for taking games away from Ter Stegen. I am saying the backup keeper needs to be good enough in case he needs to step in. Casteels is simply not good enough.

I understand that, but no team have a goalkeeper that can step in the way you're saying a backup should.

If your standards for a backup are so high then you're not going to get any GK.

I don't know anything about Casteels, but I can assure very few GKs that are good and can play regularly for a very decent team would come to be a backup at Barça.

There's a reason RM have Kiko Casilla, Chelsea have Caballero and Man Utd have Romero.

Those GKs would only start for mid table teams at best.