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[Jadentheman]

^ That is why I am afraid to praise Bayern on these forums

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[Luftstalag14]

Their players are overall much better, whether ours are "at their best" or not is unreliable and doesn't matter. Added to that they have much more balance in the squad and youth. If we were to be superior to them in any way right now it would be simply having Messi. Even Iniesta doesn't give us some massive edge that they don't have. Right now Bayern are a far superior side and accepting that is the first step to moving forward and improving. You have to respect their team and what they are doing, personnel-wise and tactically we simply do not compare right now. We'd keep going into a bottomless decline if everyone in the club had the mentality of "We are still the very best and only need a CB to win the CL again". It's really arrogant and ignorant to think that way, not to mention it overlooks several issues and would get us nowhere.

Before people start calling me a "pessimist" or a "bad fan", which would you rather have the club be? Accepting that they are no longer the best and working to improve on flaws? Or blindly glorifying the current team with no basis and lacking the edge to become better?

As much as I hate to admit, you are spot on about Bayern, Don.

We should not be in denial. We should acknowledge that they are roaring ahead of us, we must catch up.

 

[Jadentheman]

I think it's easily do able with our current signings. If Alexis is undesirable this season we can sell him and then use Deulofeu

 

[unknowngenius10]

I think ppl forget that no team has ever been able to remain on top of the world of football for that long. It's a LAW ( no, really). Bayern will not remain, and another team will arrive. It shouldn't be difficult to accept a reality if we understood how football works.
Barca's cycle had to come to and end sooner or later.
Now Bayern will take over, and then later some other team will arrive.

 

[footyfan]

Bayern are much more balanced in their game play so it's irrelevant whether our players are better (which they are not). We have Messi, Busquets and Iniesta who are better than their counterparts and that's it. Schweinsteiger is very much on par if not better than Xavi these days. Bayern are either better or equal player-to-player in all the other positions (Alba-Alaba, Boateng-Masch/Adriano/Bartra being a tie).

In both games, every time Bayern attacked they looked like they were gonna score. Trust me, this is not a personnel issue.

 

[DonAndres]

I think ppl forget that no team has ever been able to remain on top of the world of football for that long. It's a LAW ( no, really). Bayern will not remain, and another team will arrive. It shouldn't be difficult to accept a reality if we understood how football works.
Barca's cycle had to come to and end sooner or later.
Now Bayern will take over, and then later some other team will arrive.

That may be true but not to the exact detail. All great sides end up declining over the years but it doesn't have to mean that they are through and can't get back to the same levels for ages. For example Sacchi was Milan's version of Pep, an absolutely brilliant coach who led them to the top of football. At the end of his reign, Milan declined. However soon after when Capello took over they went right back on top for several more years winning 4 League titles and a CL. Relating to our current situation, we are currently in a state of dead-wood but if the club/management plays their cards right we could fire back up to the top of the tree, with our academy and brilliant system we have all the qualities to do it. It doesn't have to be some other team that comes up after Bayern's reign ends, with a lot of change/hard work it could be Barca.

 

[Jadentheman]

And I'll still be here to see that. Many of you think I am not a Barca fan, but far from the truth.

 

[Meitux]

In the matter of fact theres nothing missing from the current Bayern team,propably a striker next season that Pizarro is on his way leaving so Lewandowski is coming..another great player.They have ideal players for every position.Bayern is tottaly balanced cause they have a physicall strong defense and 2 fullbacks that can defend and attack.In the midfield also strong players and the point for me is that they played with Martinez as defensive midfielder and Schweinsteiger as Box to Box and he did great going forward and providing defensive cover..its a thing that is missing much from our team.I dont need to mention Ribery or Muller,or Gotze Kroos Thiago.Propably the best midfield in the world.Before a year everybody was saying that this team didnt have enough depth.But they didnt need much really,with the addition of a 2-3 good players look what they built.

My point is that Barcelona need to make step by step changes in order top get on the top again.Its not like a CB will solve our problems of playing or beating teams like Bayern,the system that we used for so long seems to be not so succesfull anymore..just need some refreshment in it and something new.Continuing with the same old way wouldnt exactly guarantee us success for the future.And its pretty obvious that right now we are a one man team

 

[Hamzah]

You're wrong. We are still the best and just need a defender and new manager that does his job well to unleash our full potential.

We can beat them for sure.

 

[ViscaBarca914]

We have the potential to be the best. But we are certainly not the best team in the world at this point. No way.

 

[ab739]

You're wrong. We are still the best and just need a defender and new manager that does his job well to unleash our full potential.

We can beat them for sure.

They beat us 7-0 with breaking a sweat. Madrid owned us last season as well. Were far away from being the Best club in the world. At this point in time its Bayern.

 

[Meitux]

You're wrong. We are still the best and just need a defender and new manager that does his job well to unleash our full potential.

We can beat them for sure.

You can believe whatever you want,thats just my opinion.If you think that with just a defender our defence will be stable with Pique and two attacking fullbacks in it its your opinion..its just not about defence at all..but i dont need to analize it, i just said above. lets just say the truth that for this moment we are not the best,theres nothing wrong with it really.Teams need big changes at times to be or remain the best.

 

[Hamzah]

Objectively yeah, we're far from being the best. This team easily has potential for ring the best though and I think the difference a good coach makes is huge. Add a defender to the mix and we are all set.

The coach can cure the pressing problem, the fullback problem, the rotation problems, the motivation problem, the winger problem etc etc i could go in all night listing all of them

The point is a good coach can cure these.

 

[Gohan]

Objectively yeah, we're far from being the best. This team easily has potential for ring the best though and I think the difference a good coach makes is huge. Add a defender to the mix and we are all set.

The coach can cure the pressing problem, the fullback problem, the rotation problems, the motivation problem, the winger problem etc etc i could go in all night listing all of them

The point is a good coach can cure these.

I have to agree on this one.

 

[footyfan]

And an average coach might make things worse.

There are more teams that have the potential to be the best, most notably Real Madrid. It's not just us and Bayern.