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[M3ls]

Shut up buddy. You suggest kicking out by far the most talented young footballer on the world because he asks for a big salary, and you call somebody an idiot. No he is not nearly as big of a superstar right now as Ronaldo was in Real Madrid, nobody even claimed that. But considering his talent, huge chances it will likely be the case in a few years time.

He won't ask for 15 bilion dude. Nothing less than what the biggest clubs usually pay for their most valuable players probably. You're making a problem out of nowhere, then exaggerating it and providing clearly braindead solutions.

After being humiliated by clear arguments based on numbers, you should ask the admins to delete your account on this forum.

I only used Ronaldo as an example to prove that even the departure of a player of that calibre didn't cause Real's revenues to drop.

I don't care about his talent if my club is at risk in the long term. I know that absurd policies on player wage management can lead to problems in the changing room (and therefore on the football field) as well as economic problems.

 

[MontenegrinCuler]

After being humiliated by clear arguments based on numbers, you should ask the admins to delete your account on this forum.

I only used Ronaldo as an example to prove that even the departure of a player of that calibre didn't cause Real's revenues to drop.

I don't care about his talent if my club is at risk in the long term. I know that absurd policies on player wage management can lead to problems in the changing room (and therefore on the football field) as well as economic problems.

Seek help buddy, all I have to say. I don't know how exactly you have proven anything you claimed and I did not agree with.

Don't be scared, he won't demand a fucking diamond palace

 

[soul24rage]

He said that players like Yamal should not be got rid of, even if their wage demands look high, because players like him generate high income for the club.

I have refuted this nonsense with figures:

Real Madrid didn't lose income even after Ronaldo left. Stop this nonsense.

So, the fiscal year for football teams starts on July 1.

Real Madrid's income in Ronaldo's last season (2017-2018) was 751 million euros. Let me remind you that they won the Champions League that year.

Real Madrid's income in the 2018-2019 season is 757 million euros. Let me remind you that it was one of Real Madrid's worst seasons from a sporting point of view.


These are the facts. Now compare Ronaldo's status at that time and Yamal's status in world football. That's comparing a fly and an elephant. But even after Ronaldo's departure, Real Madrid's income did not fall.

This nonsense about Leo bringing us more than 300 million euros a year, so Leo's salary of 120 million euros does not look bad, was pushed by stupid Leo fans.

This is nonsense. Absolute nonsense... And I've proved it with the example of Real Madrid with financial figures.

Which of my arguments have you refuted? I'm the only one here who backs up my words with figures, and you're just talking rubbish.

I don't care what Real Madrid did. Clearly, they have smarter and more competent people than the likes of Barto.

Laporta mentioned that Messi generates a third of Barca's income. His words, not Messi fans' words. We had this conversation so many times about the domino effect and whatnot and yet, here you are once again sprouting the same nonsense over and over again.

Also, you haven't answered my question. Where's the same energy for the poor expensive transfers that Barto made?

 

[M3ls]

Comparing Fati to Yamal....Yet calling me an idiot. You forgot what player you are talking about.

I don't know how much he will demand. Nor do I give a fuck. But yes he will demand a fat salary. That's the cost you have to pay for having the most talented prospect in world football playing for your club, which retards like you don't know how to appreciate.

But that fat salary he is going to demand is nowhere near sufficient to kick him out. He will have a fat salary and he will give fat contributions, to our fat club success. Even if he gets a fat injury, that doesn't mean he's dead or finished but instead can recover and become as essential as he would be otherwise.

Nobody is going to kick him out and there is no reason to do so. As usual arrogant fuckers calling people who disagree with their opinions sheeps. You can have an opinion that deviates from what others think but that doesn't mean that opinion is not straight up retarded like this one you have.

Dummy, you wrote the following:

He won't ask for 15 bilion dude.

That's why I gave you the example of Fati, who got a €14m contract a few years ago.

Fati and Yamal have the same agent - Mendes.

And I asked you - idiot, if Mendes was able to get Fati a €14m contract a few years ago, do you think Mendes and Yamal's family won't ask for €15m or more for Yamal?

You are a sheep with a short memory, you forget even what you wrote 10 minutes ago.
I'll tell you again - I don't care about his talent if his requests are going to cause problems in the future - he needs to be kicked the fuck out.

Having a lot of talent doesn't guarantee success - look at the current Real, think of the Galacticos.

 

[MontenegrinCuler]

Dummy, you wrote the following:

He won't ask for 15 bilion dude.

That's why I gave you the example of Fati, who got a €14m contract a few years ago.

Fati and Yamal have the same agent - Mendes.

And I asked you - idiot, if Mendes was able to get Fati a €14m contract a few years ago, do you think Mendes and Yamal's family won't ask for €15m or more for Yamal?

You are a sheep with a short memory, you forget even what you wrote 10 minutes ago.
I'll tell you again - I don't care about his talent if his requests are going to cause problems in the future - he needs to be kicked the fuck out.

Having a lot of talent doesn't guarantee success - look at the current Real, think of the Galacticos.

Yes they will probably demand more than €15M. No, it's not sufficient to kick him out. No, it won't cause problems in the future. You're exaggerating the problem, which as I said before you made out of nowhere and are now arguing about.

By the way, I don't understand how you can treat Lamine the way Perez would treat his Galacticos. Lamine is a Catalan boy who grew up in La Masia and has shown his passion for Barca, which is unquestionable for everybody bar mongols like you, countless times. On the other side those Galacticos are mostly fuckers who don't care about the badge just their individual success.

Lamine will want the money for himself sure but that doesn't mean he doesn't love the club and you should kick him out as soon as possible.

His talent matters a lot and I think you should indeed care about it. Because that's what brings you titles and long term success (shocking).

 

[M3ls]

I don't care what Real Madrid did. Clearly, they have smarter and more competent people than the likes of Barto.

Laporta mentioned that Messi generates a third of Barca's income. His words, not Messi fans' words. We had this conversation so many times about the domino effect and whatnot and yet, here you are once again sprouting the same nonsense over and over again.

Also, you haven't answered my question. Where's the same energy for the poor expensive transfers that Barto made?

I gave you the example of Real Madrid and Ronaldo to prove that the idea that the departure of a player of Ronaldo's or Messi's status, let alone Yamal's, will not lead to a big drop in income. And I proved with the example of Real proved that after Ronaldo's departure, Real did not get less income.

As for Laporta's words, they are just words. Show me the facts? If Leo was bringing us a third of our revenues, which is about 320 million euros if you go by Barcelona's revenues in the last season before the pandemic.

In the 2022-2023 season, excluding TV rights revenue, we had 860m euros. What the hell, if Leo was bringing us around €320m we should be at €600-650m even adjusted for inflation.

I completely understand why Laporta said that. And I understand perfectly why before the election Laporta talked about wanting to keep Leo. I swear, I knew perfectly well that he would get rid of him. And I don't blame him for talking about wanting to keep Leo, because otherwise he wouldn't be president and he couldn't get rid of Messi.


Are you talking about Bartomeu's transfers? Why are you mentioning that? What does that have to do with Leo's €120m salary which has caused a domino effect?

 

[soul24rage]

I gave you the example of Real Madrid and Ronaldo to prove that the idea that the departure of a player of Ronaldo's or Messi's status, let alone Yamal's, will not lead to a big drop in income. And I proved with the example of Real proved that after Ronaldo's departure, Real did not get less income.

As for Laporta's words, they are just words. Show me the facts? If Leo was bringing us a third of our revenues, which is about 320 million euros if you go by Barcelona's revenues in the last season before the pandemic.

In the 2022-2023 season, excluding TV rights revenue, we had 860m euros. What the hell, if Leo was bringing us around €320m we should be at €600-650m even adjusted for inflation.

I completely understand why Laporta said that. And I understand perfectly why before the election Laporta talked about wanting to keep Leo. I swear, I knew perfectly well that he would get rid of him. And I don't blame him for talking about wanting to keep Leo, because otherwise he wouldn't be president and he couldn't get rid of Messi.


Are you talking about Bartomeu's transfers? Why are you mentioning that? What does that have to do with Leo's €120m salary which has caused a domino effect?

- I repeat, I don't care about Real Madrid and what they do. They have their own method of business and we have our own.

- How about you show me the facts that Messi led the domino effect of other players' salary increased? I'm using your own method of argument. Cherry picking what you want to believe based on what other people are saying.

- Why am I talking about Barto's transfers? Clearly, you are blaming our financial situation all on Messi. Is Messi blameless in all of this? I mentioned several times to you already, he is absolutely not blameless, but to put all the blame on him like you are doing is absolute nonsense.

 

[M3ls]

Yes they will probably demand more than €15M. No, it's not sufficient to kick him out. No, it won't cause problems in the future. You're exaggerating the problem, which as I said before you made out of nowhere and are now arguing about.

By the way, I don't understand how you can treat Lamine the way Perez would treat his Galacticos. Lamine is a Catalan boy who grew up in La Masia and has shown his passion for Barca, which is unquestionable for everybody bar mongols like you, countless times. On the other side those Galacticos are mostly fuckers who don't care about the badge just their individual success.

Lamine will want the money for himself sure but that doesn't mean he doesn't love the club and you should kick him out as soon as possible.

His talent matters a lot and I think you should indeed care about it. Because that's what brings you titles and long term success (shocking).

I explained to you why I would have this attitude towards Lamin if he asked for an absurd contract.

Your arguments are ridiculous - La Masia, Amigos, Catalan boy. What is wrong with you? Remind me who was the owner of the €120m a year contract, wasn't it the La Masia bloke? The Catalan boy?

By the way, I'll remind you - that we still continue to pay that Catalan boy from La Masia - he left at 21 and we still pay him. And this rich Catalan boy from La Masia doesn't care that his ‘favourite’ club is having financial problems. He didn't come and say - ok guys, let you pay 50% and I won't ask for the rest as you're having a very difficult time financially at the moment.

This guy didn't say that, even though he knows full well that his contract was insanely absurd at the time, and his financial appetite for wages was one of the main sources of the wage bill problem going forward.

So cut the crap about love, Catalan boy etc.

 

[DonAK]

He's going to get paid.

Deal with it lol.

 

[M3ls]

- I repeat, I don't care about Real Madrid and what they do. They have their own method of business and we have our own.

- How about you show me the facts that Messi led the domino effect of other players' salary increased? I'm using your own method of argument. Cherry picking what you want to believe based on what other people are saying.

- Why am I talking about Barto's transfers? Clearly, you are blaming our financial situation all on Messi. Is Messi blameless in all of this? I mentioned several times to you already, he is absolutely not blameless, but to put all the blame on him like you are doing is absolute nonsense.

1. The revenue structure of the big clubs is very similar. If Leo was bringing Barcelona a third of the revenues, we should now be at €600-650m adjusted for inflation, but we finished last financial year with revenues of €860m excluding TV rights revenues.

2. The proof is in the salaries received by the players who joined the team after the summer of 2017 and those who renewed their contracts. It was in 2017 that Leo got that huge contract.
Those salaries were very different to market salaries for players of the same level and status.

The wages of Coutinho, Griezmann, the increase in the wages of Suarez, who by the way was already starting to play much worse in that period, from €23m to €30m etc.


3. I didn't say that Leo's contract was the only problem.

I was pointing out that the reason was Leo's greed and Bartomeu's stupidity both in the matter of transfers and in the matter of managing players' salaries.

 

[companyofcules]

Hustle hard is smiling at us with a hooker around his neck provided by his kid.
I think the Fati situation should never repeat, neither the Messi one, the club should make a profit and keep the salaries balanced. First the numbers, then of course similar salary as on the market (Bayern, Real).

 

[MontenegrinCuler]

@M3ls He's staying and yes he'll probably get a huge ass contract. I find it to be a complete waste of time arguing with a guy who suggests letting go of the most talented academy product we've had in decades, who will almost unquestionably make a remarkable success at any other top european club if we ever let him go and humiliate our club in CL while we are stuck with all kinds of retards, because we don't want to include extra milions in his contract. I don't know, you might want to check what you are suggesting again. It would maybe slightly make any sense if contract we are talking about was so astronomically large that our club would not be able to cope with it, which is simply not the case. Out of all things that threaten destroying our club, Lamine is last on the list. Whether you agree with it or not, your problem.

 

[MontenegrinCuler]

Hustle hard is smiling at us with a hooker around his neck provided by his kid.
I think the Fati situation should never repeat, neither the Messi one, the club should make a profit and keep the salaries balanced. First the numbers, then of course similar salary as on the market (Bayern, Real).

Neither Fati nor Messi situations are even merely comparable to the one with Yamal. And I find it hilarious that I even have to mention this.

As for Fati, he was never even a glimpse of potential that Lamine is.

As for Messi, his contract situation was at the later stage of his career not when he was 17 year old so how you managed to snuck it in I really don't know.

 

[companyofcules]

Neither Fati nor Messi situations are even merely comparable to the one with Yamal. And I find it hilarious that I even have to mention this.

As for Fati, he was never even a glimpse of potential that Lamine is.

As for Messi, his contract situation was at the later stage of his career not when he was 17 year old so how you managed to snuck it in I really don't know.

Doesn't matter, the point is, it should never happen. Let Lamine prove with numbers he deserves a Vini like salary and we should provide.
If he wants to cash hundreds fast I don't think we should burn the club for him.

Vini is 2 UCL and has a decent goal contribution.
Also if you raise the salary of Yamal you need to sell or dump in the Mediterrana the previous stars that never confirmed like Fati, Shark.
And pls don't hype Hulund(not you personally), fuck him he is a 50 mil striker paid like a king to goast in big games.
He should pay us to test his abilities for one season then demand money.

 

[soul24rage]

1. The revenue structure of the big clubs is very similar. If Leo was bringing Barcelona a third of the revenues, we should now be at €600-650m adjusted for inflation, but we finished last financial year with revenues of €860m excluding TV rights revenues.

2. The proof is in the salaries received by the players who joined the team after the summer of 2017 and those who renewed their contracts. It was in 2017 that Leo got that huge contract.
Those salaries were very different to market salaries for players of the same level and status.

The wages of Coutinho, Griezmann, the increase in the wages of Suarez, who by the way was already starting to play much worse in that period, from €23m to €30m etc.


3. I didn't say that Leo's contract was the only problem.

I was pointing out that the reason was Leo's greed and Bartomeu's stupidity both in the matter of transfers and in the matter of managing players' salaries.

- Sure, the revenue structure is similar such as getting Champions league place and broadcast rights, but the method of achieving revenue through other avenue is different such as sponsorship, selling assets, marketing, summer tour, jersey sales, and etc.

- Can't take seriously of Coutinho and Griezmann as Barto was basically giving out money for players to join the club lol From what I know, Suarez renewed his contract in 2016, which does not match your timeline for the summer 2017. Can you provide the source that it went from 23m to 30m?

- Haven't seen you post anything about Bartomeu. Everytime I see you in this forum, it's always Messi Messi Messi.