Bundesliga

[Ocelot]

I need to buy bayern munich tickets, anyone knows a good website that sells them? Thanks

 

[diDi7]

I need to buy bayern munich tickets, anyone knows a good website that sells them? Thanks

viagogo?

 

[DennyCrane]

I'm triggered by the rampant germanophobia in this thread. Y'all should go check your #nationalityprivilege. #hatespeech.

 

[Luftstalag14]

No, it wasn't wrong, which is why I even made the comment regarding why German is not as widely spoken around the globe as it should ( ).
btw, deciding the fate of the various forms of Christianity is not exactly equal to "saving mankind", I'd say. I was refering to the 30 years war. If you don't know much about it, it was the biggest religious war in the history of mankind which was fought on German soil, costing the German populace more than World War 1 and 2 combined, in relation to the overall populace even much more.

Anyways, just found it weird to be called a Nazi based on my previous comments here on these boards. I was used to being called a Kraut Swine and Nazi everytime I had wooped the floor with some Americans or British in Call of Duty 4 (which happened A LOT) back in the day, which made it even more fun, but here? Now? By YOU?
Why Brutus, why?

I see now why you made that connection, Ryu, thanks. Well, I don't think it is a matter of sheer size of the population/speakers, Germany wasn't colonizing the world like crazy like the British and the Spaniards did, unfortunately. Actually, I read somewhere that at the dawn of the American revolution the Continental Congress was going to vote on what language the newly-founded United States would adopt, English or German since there was a sizable population in the colonies that spoke German, not sure if that was true. Today, German Americans are the largest ethnic group in the US.

Again, the NS stuff was a joke, no offense.

 

[KingMessi]

Actually, I read somewhere that at the dawn of the American revolution the Continental Congress was going to vote on what language the newly-founded United States would adopt, English or German since there was a sizable population in the colonies that spoke German, not sure if that was true.

As far as I know, that is but a legend. There's no truth to it.

IIRC, this legend comes from the 1795 proposal to also print American laws in German, in addition to English, to better accommodate German immigrants.

 

[Luftstalag14]

I understand what you are saying, but when you look at other German clubs, the Germans are well represented, so they don't really have something to complain about, if that were something that would concern them. The issue I have isn't strictly an ethnic one. For example, I'd rather have half a squad of world class foreigners and half a squad of world class Germans than a whole squad of okayish Germans. As a fan of Bayern and the German National Team, I want to see the same players plying their trade at Bayern represent Germany at the biggest stage of international football. I'd like to imagine my preference as unique, since it's one of a dual Bayern and DFB idealism. If a Russian, born in Japan, with German grandparents, grew up in Canada, played for Bayern AND decided to represent Germany - I would want that motherfucker to play for Bayern if he were a starter in the national team.

It's simply a personal preference. My biggest concern was Pep acquiring Spanish players simply because they were Spanish, while similar German talents were available. I hope this post isn't misunderstood.

For this very reason it was pretty concerning seeing Kroos leaving. And then Basti, while we bought the very first Spanish player (and then 4 more!) only a couple of years ago. You understand why I became suspicious? Barca were integral to the success of Spain's triumphs; and in the same way Germany's backbone consisted of Bayern players when they won the World Cup. I fucking loved that. So yeah, I'd be a happier fan of Kroos if he were a starter at FCB and DFB, as opposed to RM and DFB. It's a silly little thing, but we had it so good that I took it for granted.

As for the foreign part of it, as my grandfather was German, I feel a little German myself. The culture, the people, the language etc. I feel a part of that. So, I can understand why it's weird seeing foreign fans raging over the same issue.

Thanks diDi for taking the time to explain. Many Bayern fans became Bayern fans because of DFB first, so naturally they prefer German players, I guess.

I think what is pretty unique about Bayern's foreign fanbase is that compared to foreign fans of other clubs such as us, Real Madrid and various EPL teams, they tend to associate the club with the host country much tighter than fans of the other clubs. I personally could care less about Spain or Catalonia (I just wish our players would not get injured and keep a good form while playing for the NT, that's it).

 

[Luftstalag14]

I need to buy bayern munich tickets, anyone knows a good website that sells them? Thanks

Viagogo is your best chance, but you will have to pay a lot more. If you can wait though, go to the Bayern official site in German and visit the ticket section. You can "inquire" tickets ahead of time for games and leave it to luck. Chances are, if you are not a Bayern member you might only get tickets to those games that are less popular.

 

[Luftstalag14]

As far as I know, that is but a legend. There's no truth to it.

IIRC, this legend comes from the 1795 proposal to also print American laws in German, in addition to English, to better accommodate German immigrants.

Thanks KingMessi, good to know. I personally found it a bit hard to believe too since the founding fathers of the US were all of English descent.

 

[Ryu Hayabusa]

As far as I know, that is but a legend. There's no truth to it.

IIRC, this legend comes from the 1795 proposal to also print American laws in German, in addition to English, to better accommodate German immigrants.

Yup, that's an urban legend.

Fact is however that the majority of today's white population in America are of German decent. Oddly enough, Irish are second-most IIRC, even before the British.
edit: Ah, okay. Luft even already mentioned it. nvm then.

 

[Luftstalag14]

But imagine if you had the mighty United States speaking German and spreading its popular culture in German. That would have made German the lingua franca and Bundesliga the most popular league in the world.

 

[Ryu Hayabusa]

Yeah, yeah... I rather not imagine such things. Would only make me sad (a little bit at least).

 

[Donauwelle]

It's simply a personal preference. My biggest concern was Pep acquiring Spanish players simply because they were Spanish, while similar German talents were available. I hope this post isn't misunderstood.

For this very reason it was pretty concerning seeing Kroos leaving. And then Basti, while we bought the very first Spanish player (and then 4 more!) only a couple of years ago. You understand why I became suspicious? Barca were integral to the success of Spain's triumphs; and in the same way Germany's backbone consisted of Bayern players when they won the World Cup. I fucking loved that. So yeah, I'd be a happier fan of Kroos if he were a starter at FCB and DFB, as opposed to RM and DFB. It's a silly little thing, but we had it so good that I took it for granted.

As for the foreign part of it, as my grandfather was German, I feel a little German myself. The culture, the people, the language etc. I feel a part of that. So, I can understand why it's weird seeing foreign fans raging over the same issue.

The local fans never had that connection with Kroos that you e.g. see in the international forums and did not really see that as such a big loss. Maybe some did see the loss of a quality player - but there never was the emotional connection that the fans have with some of the players - and in that aspect it is not really important from what country they come from. Yes, Schweinsteiger and Müller are very important for the fans - but that has as much to do with them coming out of the region and out of own youth - as with their characters. Some of the past and current foreign players are more integrated into the Bayern family than a lot of the Germans that were playing for Bayern are.

Schweinsteiger was a different story - and it is important that Bayern keeps a core of local players. That is why Müller is so important for the team and the future - but I like the international players at Bayern a lot and I think it is more important how this players relationship to the club and fans is than what nationality they have.

 

[Luftstalag14]

The local fans never had that connection with Kroos that you e.g. see in the international forums and did not really see that as such a big loss. Maybe some did see the loss of a quality player - but there never was the emotional connection that the fans have with some of the players - and in that aspect it is not really important from what country they come from. Yes, Schweinsteiger and Müller are very important for the fans - but that has as much to do with them coming out of the region and out of own youth - as with their characters. Some of the past and current foreign players are more integrated into the Bayern family than a lot of the Germans that were playing for Bayern are.

Schweinsteiger was a different story - and it is important that Bayern keeps a core of local players. That is why Müller is so important for the team and the future - but I like the international players at Bayern a lot and I think it is more important how this players relationship to the club and fans is than what nationality they have.

Yeah, I can totally understand and relate to the sentiment to have and keep a few local stars on the team, the ones coming out the state/region/city etc. Other than that, nationality does not matter.

 

[barcafan161]

This league is over already...just shocking how easy Bayern have it and how good they are.

The comp is poor.

 

[Barcafan 2304]

This league is over already...just shocking how easy Bayern have it and how good they are.

The comp is poor.

Very true and unless the gap is closed quickly it will lead to problems. No league is attractive when one side dominates so much