Cesc Fàbregas

Ghostmaster

Danger Ahead
You're not taking into account the fact the team and Lucho might just not have Cesc in the future plans, regardless of the acquisition or not of a superior talented replacement. If they simple don't count on Cesc going forward, selling him now when his value is at it's peak makes the most sense. They don't even necessarily have to replace him with an equally or more talented player. If they feel a lesser overall talent like Rakitic or Ander Herrera fits better with their vision of the team going forward, and even still if they feel those types of player would offer a better role and/or be more malleable to the coaches desires and requirements, why would it be better to keep the player just because "he is too good to let go."

Guardiola got rid of world class talent like Ronaldinho and Deco, and replaced them with what everyone would admit were inferior choices at the time in Keita and 20 year old Busquets. Why? Because he had a vision. Might as well be that Lucho thinks Rafinha and Koke or Rakitic will fit better in his vision for his project that Cesc, more talented that he may be.

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slvtn

Member
If the coach has a vision and a plan going forward, even a lesser player talentwise might still be a better option than another with all the talent in the world, but still not the right composition for what the project dictates.


Hate to say this, but Lucho's "vision" will be measured by the number of trophies after the first season. If he's unlucky and ends up like this season, he will leave and can take his vision to another team.
If Cesc wants to go - ok, if the board / Lucho wants him out - ok, but then secure a replacement first like it's been said several times now. I still don't see the necissity to sell him and still spend 10 - 20mio on another midfielder. We have other lacks to fix and I still don't see the financial base to make the deals, even if we can sell Cesc for 40+ million. The board should take an example in Bayern and how intelligent they used their tranfer policy.
 

Maria

New member
You're not taking into account the fact the team and Lucho might just not have Cesc in the future plans, regardless of the acquisition or not of a superior talented replacement. If they simple don't count on Cesc going forward, selling him now when his value is at it's peak makes the most sense. They don't even necessarily have to replace him with an equally or more talented player. If they feel a lesser overall talent like Rakitic or Ander Herrera fits better with their vision of the team going forward, and even still if they feel those types of player would offer a better role and/or be more malleable to the coaches desires and requirements, why would it be better to keep the player just because "he is too good to let go."

And you are not taking into account the fact that we have a sporting director that was incapable of buying a CB in 4 years..do you really trust him to buy the midfielder Lucho wants after he sells Cesc, knowing that most teams will try to rip us off? Also Ozil was sold after RM bought Bale&Isco and Mata after it was clear to everybody that Mourinho doesn't want him, so I don't see why we should sell Cesc before buying a new midfielder.

Guardiola got rid of world class talent like Ronaldinho and Deco, and replaced them with what everyone would admit were inferior choices at the time in Keita and 20 year old Busquets. Why? Because he had a vision.

Guardiola's vision was to build a team around Xavi and Messi(and he said so in his first press conference), not around Busquets and Keita who were just squad players at the beginning. And even so, Keita was already a Barca player when Ronaldinho and Deco were sold(signed a contract with us on 26 May 2008).

Might as well be that Lucho thinks Rafinha and Koke or Rakitic will fit better in his vision for his project that Cesc, more talented that he may be.

What do we know about Lucho's wishes though? Only that he sees Messi and Neymar as being very important and that he wants to talk to Xavi about his role. Other than that we can only guess from what the newspapers are writting.
 
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Hamzah

High Definition Member
Kovacic can be a game controller. He plays for an inter team in a bad time in their history, we can get him for cheaper than Koke. Do our scouts know about him?
 

ZenI

Professor Balthazar
Kovacic can be a game controller. He plays for an inter team in a bad time in their history, we can get him for cheaper than Koke. Do our scouts know about him?

Definitively, from the young midfielders in the top leagues he is one of the best. Reminds me a little of Rakitic. But Inter know what they got, they won't let him go for cheap at all. But imo Koke is a different player, more powerful and defensive - likes to play deeper than Kovacic.
 

Ghostmaster

Danger Ahead
This guy should replace Cesc :)

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Ghostmaster

Danger Ahead
Chelsea's board is more enthusiastic about signing Cesc Fabregas than Chelsea coach Mourinho, who prefers Koke or Pogba. [independent]

Mou is certainly not happy when Cesc told him to shut up :lol:
 

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