Champions league 09-10

[barcakid999]

Exactly. The only player that crossed that half line was Rooney. Fergie can be really stupid sometimes.

Err, Nani and Fletcher also played pretty advanced. I don't think Fergies subs were correct but you can see the reasoning behind 'em. To call the best manager of all time clueless is knee-jerk to say the least.

the mancs do this every single time, when they are away they park the bus vs any team that shows any ability to pass. they got lucky with shrek's goal and decided to park it, if not for united keeper the score could have been much worse. i think the age of united players are catching up with them as scholes and neville should not be on the pitch

Agreed, Van Der Sar kept them in it at times.

Scholes shouldn't of been on the pitch? You really don't know what you're talking about do you? If you watched any United games this season bar Fulham away Scholes has been in great form and looking like he has plenty to offer. Who would you have played instead of him? Gibson?

I get the impression that people don't watch United on a regular basis, they're suddenly calling Fergie clueless and good players crap after one performance. It's the equivalent of saying Barcelona are crap after losing to Kazan...

 

[yusuf]

well the problem is ferguson has not replaced his older players like scholes with any good younger players

i think he made a mistake in telling them to defend too much when he could have attacked munich and killed the tie off as the CB for munich were horrendous

 

[silky_soccer]

to be fair to Fergie...

Neville - Rafael - going to be the best RB when older
Scholes - Anderson (Not good so far, but has great potential)
Giggs - Nani, Obertan (showing improvement but still not there yet)

 

[blueduck]

"Anderson has potential" we've been hearing that for a while now. Still waiting...

 

[silky_soccer]

"Anderson has potential" we've been hearing that for a while now. Still waiting...

i know, but i was making the point that he has bought replacements that should be good enough but havent shown anything like it...

 

[Ataraxia]

Err, Nani and Fletcher also played pretty advanced. I don't think Fergies subs were correct but you can see the reasoning behind 'em. To call the best manager of all time clueless is knee-jerk to say the least.

What reasoning behind them ? If he wanted to attack he could have started the match like that. No reason to put in two attacking players in second half with the score he had. Fletcher and Nani didn't play advanced. They just moved forward for some time, but in no way played advanced. I've never seen Nani defend as much as he defended yesterday. And Ferguson is not the best manager of all time. He might be very successful and experienced , but some names like Van Gaal, Capello, Mourinho are all better than him. He is a great club manager though, invests well, has great relations with the players, thinks always of the future, brings stability to the team but a lot of times his tactics prove wrong. He can pick on weak managers like Leonardo, but against big experienced names, he finds himself lacking at many times. I really think his squad could have done much better.

To be honest Neville had a very good first half against Ribery. Second half, Bayern pushed forward more and Ribery got more support and Neville couldn't catch up with them and got a bit tired, but you can't defend for 90 minutes against Ribery and expect to stay solid for the full time. If Ferguson pushed forward, he could have capitalized and gave some breath for the defenders. It was like 90 minute assault with few random balls to Rooney through counter-attacks.

 

[barcakid999]

What reasoning behind them ? If he wanted to attack he could have started the match like that. No reason to put in two attacking players in second half with the score he had. Fletcher and Nani didn't play advanced. They just moved forward for some time, but in no way played advanced. I've never seen Nani defend as much as he defended yesterday. And Ferguson is not the best manager of all time. He might be very successful and experienced , but some names like Van Gaal, Capello, Mourinho are all better than him. He is a great club manager though, invests well, has great relations with the players, thinks always of the future, brings stability to the team but a lot of times his tactics prove wrong. He can pick on weak managers like Leonardo, but against big experienced names, he finds himself lacking at many times. I really think his squad could have done much better.

To be honest Neville had a very good first half against Ribery. Second half, Bayern pushed forward more and Ribery got more support and Neville couldn't catch up with them and got a bit tired, but you can't defend for 90 minutes against Ribery and expect to stay solid for the full time. If Ferguson pushed forward, he could have capitalized and gave some breath for the defenders. It was like 90 minute assault with few random balls to Rooney through counter-attacks.

You really shouldn't critisise Uniteds European away record, I think they were near to breaking another record if it weren't for yesterdays perofrmance.

You really are silly if you think any of those listed are superior to him. He's the most successful because he's the best. How you can argue managers like Mourinho and Van Gaal are superior I do not know. Even Jose would admit Fergie is the king, you'll notice how good he is when he retires and then United will start to struggle. He's the most successful, the most expierienced, the best. He's built up numerous great sides and deserves every bit of credit he gets.

Again I'm not disagreeing about last nights performance really, it's more you saying a few outlandish statements based on one game.

 

[silky_soccer]

What reasoning behind them ? If he wanted to attack he could have started the match like that. No reason to put in two attacking players in second half with the score he had. Fletcher and Nani didn't play advanced. They just moved forward for some time, but in no way played advanced. I've never seen Nani defend as much as he defended yesterday. And Ferguson is not the best manager of all time. He might be very successful and experienced , but some names like Van Gaal, Capello, Mourinho are all better than him. He is a great club manager though, invests well, has great relations with the players, thinks always of the future, brings stability to the team but a lot of times his tactics prove wrong. He can pick on weak managers like Leonardo, but against big experienced names, he finds himself lacking at many times. I really think his squad could have done much better.

To be honest Neville had a very good first half against Ribery. Second half, Bayern pushed forward more and Ribery got more support and Neville couldn't catch up with them and got a bit tired, but you can't defend for 90 minutes against Ribery and expect to stay solid for the full time. If Ferguson pushed forward, he could have capitalized and gave some breath for the defenders. It was like 90 minute assault with few random balls to Rooney through counter-attacks.

He has won 2 european Cups...
reached the last two finals..Beating mourinho on the way...

in terms of club football, noone is near fergie, He wont manage internationally, but no1 will ever be as succesful as him....

All managers i bet you will say the same, as much as i hate his club, be realistic

 

[desoe]

If Berbatov is all what United have in attack right now, I think they're screwed. Really, really screwed.

Now they should hope on their midfielders and wingers to do the job, to create a miracle in Rooney's absence. Honestly, I think they're already out of the Champions League.

In times like these Owen would be VERY useful for them. He could be made by glass, but for me he's a striker who could always score a crucial goal. Now they don't have a forward like that.

 

[silky_soccer]

If Berbatov is all what United have in attack right now, I think they're screwed. Really, really screwed.

Now they should hope on their midfielders and wingers to do the job, to create a miracle in Rooney's absence. Honestly, I think they're already out of the Champions League.

In times like these Owen would be VERY useful for them. He could be made by glass, but for me he's a striker who could always score a crucial goal. Now they don't have a forward like that.

Very True, this will prove whether they are a 1 man team or not...

their not out yet... they only need 2 not concede and their through...

 

[desoe]

I'm quite sure that they will concede at least 1, especially with Robben coming back. And without Rooney, I'm not actually sure how much they could score.

 

[silky_soccer]

I'm quite sure that they will concede at least 1, especially with Robben coming back. And without Rooney, I'm not actually sure how much they could score.

Vidic, Rio and Fletcher are their 3 most important players after Rooney..
VDS aswell actually...

If they perform to their best.... they have a shot...

Biggest few weeks of Berbatovs United career...

 

[FCB_Titi_LB]

Manu again didnt turn up for the night

 

[Ataraxia]

You really shouldn't critisise Uniteds European away record, I think they were near to breaking another record if it weren't for yesterdays perofrmance.

You really are silly if you think any of those listed are superior to him. He's the most successful because he's the best. How you can argue managers like Mourinho and Van Gaal are superior I do not know. Even Jose would admit Fergie is the king, you'll notice how good he is when he retires and then United will start to struggle. He's the most successful, the most expierienced, the best. He's built up numerous great sides and deserves every bit of credit he gets.

Again I'm not disagreeing about last nights performance really, it's more you saying a few outlandish statements based on one game.

Not really. He's a great club manager for the reasons I mentioned. You can tell Mourinho to move his ass from one club to another and he'll do great at every one of them. Same for Capello. Ferguson succeeded because of the things I mentioned. He has an eye for talent and is good at making a future for a club. He had the money to get any player he wanted and had great squads in the way. That's why he is great. But in terms of tactics and game play coaching he is inferior to Mourinho, Capello, Van Gaal and hell even Ancelotti.

 

[Benzema10]

A save from Magic Hugo ^^ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmAfqbteNtE