Champions League 12/13

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ivan22

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it was sky, so what?

If you think this is a coincidence then I really can't help you anymore. Especially if it's uefa.
 

Plip

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Yes, cos a string of coincidences with an enormously high yield of possible outcomes MUST be a conspiracy. There can be no other way around it.

:whatever:
 

Mes que un club

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it was sky, so what?

If you think this is a coincidence then I really can't help you anymore. Especially if it's uefa.

Because a "leaked" photo from SKY is not really that leaked is it. Just the fact that SKY was there, indicates no apparent willingness on the side of UEFA to keep the results of this dummy draw hidden. It returns me to my original question: Do you really think UEFA are sneaky enough to fix a draw infront of the whole world, but not sneaky enough to either make sure to fix the dummy draw in another way or make sure that nothing gets out from the dummy draw?

Oh, and you just quite clearly admitted to your own prejudice in the matter.
 
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ivan22

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how are they supposed to fix it if it already aired? maybe that camera who filmed the draw wasn't supposed to be there. And I'm sorry, but uefa IS corrupt, they've always been. I'd always be suspicious if something like this happens, but considering it's uefa just makes it very, VERY hard to believe.
 
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Flavia

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how are they supposed to fix it if it already aired? maybe that camera who filmed the draw wasn't supposed to be there. And I'm sorry, but uefa IS corrupt, they've always been. I'd always be suspicious if something like this happens, but considering it's uefa just makes it very, VERY hard to believe.

Who did this drawing favour? I see only bayern having an easier game than the rest, the games are pretty much even. Where there's humans, there's corruption. But it still doesn't mean this draw was fixed.
 

Theconomist

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There is so much money in football and so many powerful people involved (Abrahamovich,the Al-Thanis,the Al-Mansoors,Berlusconi,the Glazers...)I really don't think UEFA can do something like this. They are on thin ice anyway, the clubs don't like their FFP and the threats to walk out aren't just smoke. If the top teams decide to leave UEFA and form their own thing then the rest WILL follow.
 

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A couple predictions:


Bayern Munich - Arsenal

Straight forward win for Bayern, Arsenal are pretty toothless going forward with there main weapon being possesion & Bayern wil have most of that, Ribery is on fire & Arsenal defensively are pathetic with no shape to there team & no defensive cover either, often play off the cuff with no real gameplan. Bayern win Wenger out.

Valencia - PSG

I don't watch much of Valencia to be fair, but there struggling domestically but i'm not sure if they are playing well & not getting results. PSG i've watched & i do think there a god team with Thiago Motta returning, Verratti in midfield & Thiago Silva leading the defense. The Big Swede turns up, i'll give the nod to PSG.

Real Madrid - Manchester United

Both teams have played poorly all season despite United actually being top of the Premiership, i can't wait to watch this one, i expect lots of back & fourth action & goals, i think United are a constant goal threat & can score 2 or 3 out of nowhere. United win.

AC Milan - Barcelona

I think Barcelona's game suits AC Milan through the middle, the spine of Van Bommel, Nesta, Silva is gone & isn't as strong this year, but i'm pretty confident that Ambrosini & Yepes can do a good job on Messi with all that experience between the pair of them, i expect Pato/Robinho to leave in Jan so i'm not sure what the squad will be but niether are massively important in current times. I have Barcelona winning this but i don't think it's set in stone. Barcelona.

Shakhtar - Dortmund

I can't even begin to tell you how much i've been impressed of Shakhtar, in a tough group of Juventus & Chelsea (who were playing very well in the beggining) while finishing 2nd played the best by a long shot in that group, also good luck to Dortmund going to Ukraine. I'm not buying the Dortmund hype yet, fairplay for topping arguable the toughest group on paper, but Manchester City & Real Madrid have both been dire this season & if anyone impressed me in the entire group, it was actually Ajax. Close call - Shakhtar win.

Celtic - Juventus

I expect a few flicks of the hair + a couple through balls & then maybe a trip to the salon after the match for Pirlo.

Juventus win.

Can't really comment on Porto - Malaga & Schalke - Galatasaray as i don't watch any of them, although Huntelaar :wub: if i had to take a guess probably Porto/Galatasaray.
 
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Mes que un club

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how are they supposed to fix it if it already aired? maybe that camera who filmed the draw wasn't supposed to be there. And I'm sorry, but uefa IS corrupt, they've always been. I'd always be suspicious if something like this happens, but considering it's uefa just makes it very, VERY hard to believe.
What does the bold part even mean? They are obviously not going to "fix it" after it has happened, i don't get your point. So once again; they can control and fix a draw in front of the whole world, but can't control who gets in or out with or without cameras during their dummy draw?
 

Banana-Rama

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If we finished top of the group we'd have got Madrid.

We finished first last season and got Milan, the toughest available draw, who were very strong last season.


i don't understand what your moaning about, if arsenal were not good enough to get past milan last season do you really think they would of had enough to get past madrid or barcelona, arsenal were never going to win it last season no matter what the draw was, you cannot expect to get to the final without having to face a single good team on the way...........................
 

Banana-Rama

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What does the bold part even mean? They are obviously not going to "fix it" after it has happened, i don't get your point. So once again; they can control and fix a draw in front of the whole world, but can't control who gets in or out with or without cameras during their dummy draw?

it is not that far fetched at all that the test draw and final draw were the same when you take into account that there were 4 spanish teams in the draw who couldn't face each other, two english clubs that couldn't face each other, etc, the number of potential outcomes was pretty limited when you take those restrictions into account............
 
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