Champions League

[Rory]

As much as it looked like domination and that maybe PSG won't do much this ucl. They won 2-0 and lost 2-1 against an incredibly strong city. Wouldn't rule them out unless Mbappe is injured. and maybe if Veratti is too. No midfield control without him.

 

[JamDav1982]

As much as it looked like domination and that maybe PSG won't do much this ucl. They won 2-0 and lost 2-1 against an incredibly strong city. Wouldn't rule them out unless Mbappe is injured. and maybe if Veratti is too. No midfield control without him.

Cant rule them out as they may find a system that works better than this or may get 'lucky' in defence while that front three run riot.

But from these games in CL so far that team is too disjointed at moment.

 

[serghei]

Drop one of Neymar or Messi, as they have basically the same role now, both want to be no10s. But even then, the back 4 of PSG is leaky. The problem is PSG's defense isn't great even for normal standards, let alone in this setup which puts extra stress on it.

 

[Sterlingfan2000]

The fact that all PL clubs topped their group is insane - especially Man United (wtf)

The fact that there is only 1 decent performing club in each of Serie A, Bundesliga, Ligue 1 and La Liga is also a bit insane.

 

[te amo barca]

The only way to do this and MAYBE win would be to teleport Messi and Mbappe as Inzaghi/Shevchenko and Crespo for some 2003 Milan side with a back 4 of Kaladze, Maldini, Stam and Nesta. + Gatusso Ambrossini steel in midfield.

4-4-2, with Messi and Mbappe up top. Neymar would still have to disappear.

their squad is tailor-made for a back five. Hakimi and Mendes are natural wingbacks. The midfield would get more protection. Messi + Mbappe in the attack.

 

[malvolio]

Gueye and Paredes were in top three for pass with around 95%.

You are making things up.

Messi, Mbappe and Neymar were the ones giving it away more.

I'm talking about progressive passes. Not between them when deep. By that logic the defenders are better.

 

[fergus90]

No chance PSG win the CL. Yes they have threat going forward but off the ball they allow teams at them with lack of pressure, protection and cohesion.

If City had a competent forward today, they score 3 or 4 more.

 

[serghei]

their squad is tailor-made for a back five. Hakimi and Mendes are natural wingbacks. The midfield would get more protection. Messi + Mbappe in the attack.

Or that, some 3-5-2 which switches fast in a 5-3-2 or 5-4-1 (you can still get fresh legs Mbappe to sacrifice a bit for the team defensively). But that's the same thing basically, it's still park the bus and nick a goal on the counter.

 

[El Gato]

As much as it looked like domination and that maybe PSG won't do much this ucl. They won 2-0 and lost 2-1 against an incredibly strong city. Wouldn't rule them out unless Mbappe is injured. and maybe if Veratti is too. No midfield control without him.

Get a top tier Messi and a Ramos with 1 month of game time in before a knockout vs City and they can beat them.
Wont be easy and City been pecking away at it for years and slowly progressing each year, but doable

City not convincing this year anyway. Unless they manage to get Kane in Jan I dont see much changing from years prior and could contend for everything till the end but hardly a favourite

 

[malvolio]

You are wasting your time.

Guy is an idiot who doesn't get football or pretends not to just to suck Messi's dick

Birdy, I've sincerely tried to ignore you. But you're asking for it.

Go wank yourself over some excel spreadsheet. You were proven wrong time and again on here.

 

[JamDav1982]

I'm talking about progressive passes. Not between them when deep. By that logic the defenders are better.

No you said they kept giving it away which they didnt.

As said Veratti is amongst if not best in world at that and with him they struggled in first game in much the same way.

That defenders comment makes no sense as no one claiming defenders were giving away ball all the time.

The best coaches in the world want their teams to press from front and constantly move for the team.

PSG lack that and need to hope for individual moments from front three too much.

It is like Lucho used to do with Barca when ahead and leave front three up the pitch more or less. Game became chaotic and gave up control for hope of individuals winning it.

 

[serghei]

Poch will have to drop one of the 3 to regain a bit of midfield structure in these games. And he knows shit will hit the fan if he does that .

 

[Barcilliant]

The fact that all PL clubs topped their group is insane - especially Man United (wtf)

The fact that there is only 1 decent performing club in each of Serie A, Bundesliga, Ligue 1 and La Liga is also a bit insane.

It's not insane. It's a massive concern. If the epl dominates others in Europe will lose interest and fall behind. In the old European cup days teams like Celtic, Forrest, Marseille and Red Star Belgrade won the competition. Now only a few select win it and the field is narrowing.

 

[malvolio]

Come on man, it's clear that City forwards run their asses off in defense, while PSG offensive players walk. PSG is an old fashion galactico team where you have a clear separation between players that do the offensive phase and players that do the defensive phase. This leads to constant superiority for the team that involves more players in both phases.

The PSG model has been simply outdated and superseded by modern tactics where everybody does both phases. They are outworked easily. Now even the keepers are active assets in breaking the press and passing from the back.

City forwards are more like midfielders. That's why they lack in the finishing department. But that's a given as Pep knows what he's doing. A well oiled machine, with players fit for purpose.

PSG is galactico in attack and GK. Midfield is EL level and defense has some promising fullbacks and a clown in Kimpembe at CB.

Watch the game again and see how most of PSG were in defense for large periods. They lack ability across the park to get out of high press.

 

[JamDav1982]

City forwards are more like midfielders. That's why they lack in the finishing department. But that's a given as Pep knows what he's doing. A well oiled machine, with players fit for purpose.

PSG is galactico in attack and GK. Midfield is EL level and defense has some promising fullbacks and a clown in Kimpembe at CB.

Watch the game again and see how most of PSG were in defense for large periods. They lack ability across the park to get out of high press.

Pep would not take Messi walking about at 34 either.

He picks players that will press and move.

City keep ball better tonight as PSG cant press as a unit helps them do that.