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JamDav1982

Senior Member
By the way, Barca locker-room talk today:

- "It begins to be something paranormal."

- "It seems to be black magic."

- "This is no longer luck, it's something else."

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@fansjavimiguel

Standard shite from a Barca team stuck in past and ignorant to modern football.
 

Birdy

Senior Member
Did you know, that xG over the two legs against City is almost exactly equal?

LOL
Yes if you include pens and everything that happened after Rodrygo's goal, maybe.
From what I know, in 179 min of play (before the injury time yesterday),
Real has managed to create 2 big chances, while City managed to create 6

Not even close..
Good try...
 

Morten

Senior Member
Obviously penalty in extra-time skews things in our favor, but it certainly wasn't a landslide for City.
First leg was, the 2nd leg, not really, they scored from a really good Mahrez-shot, not something that often ends up in the net, Courtois did make a couple of big saves though.

But goals changes matches, which is why xG isnt the end-all be-all, we should have been down by 2-3 goals after the first leg, do we make a comeback then? Doubtful.
 

FC B

Senior Member
The thing is we're deadly on the counter. The moment Madrid try to get a goal and push forward, Salah Mane Diaz will have good scenarios on the break.

We're a very complete team.

Ancelotti imo won't play a high line, they will sit deep just like they did vs City yesterday night and try to score from counters, set pieces, crosses. If late in the game the score is still close, they'll try to do to you what they did to others and successfully brought them here.
 

Birdy

Senior Member
Obviously penalty in extra-time skews things in our favor, but it certainly wasn't a landslide for City.
First leg was, the 2nd leg, not really, they scored from a really good Mahrez-shot, not something that often ends up in the net, Courtois did make a couple of big saves though.

But goals changes matches, which is why xG isnt the end-all be-all, we should have been down by 2-3 goals after the first leg, do we make a comeback then? Doubtful.

Yes the Mahrez goal was a good finish that shouldn't have gone in based on xG.
1 big chance for both teams (Vinicius and Grealish) before injury-time.

But that was City's approach: to shut down the game completely, not get threatened, maybe snatch a goal but mainly not concede.
You can't say it didn't work out for them, at least before the para-normal stuff started
 

mc_lovin

Senior Member
For me it wasn't really a surprise Real got their two goals in normal time... they pressured really well at the end of the game. Something this whole xG philosophy misses.
 

FC B

Senior Member
I blame PSG for all of this. Those incompetents had Madrid by the balls and allowed the monster to escape causing all sorts of damage.

Yeah but it was also about Makkelie refusing to give a stonewall foul on Donnarumma by Benzema which led to the first goal of Madrid, the first goal which started this seemingly never ending stream of remontadas.
 

Temptation

Well-known member
I understand that some Football fans don't like complex statistics like xG and stuff because it's simple, good old Football; why make it complicated?

But xG is a genuine thing. A lot of people totally misunderstand the purpose of xG.

xG isn't the ultimate decider in anything and it isn't meant to be.

It is just the statistical evaluation of the quantitive goal scoring chances and situations a team has created.

And, Real Madrid pressing well at the end certainly shows in the xG charts. The Rodrygo chances and the pens added to Real's xG as they were great chances legitimately created by RM and as Morten said, Real ended up with similar xG to City which indicates the quality of chances they produced towards the end.

Dismissing xG model is off the mark. Our entire recruitment strategy is based on xG and even more "hipster stats".

It's just a by-product of the technological improvements in the sport. It serves it's purpose adequately but we must treat it for what it is.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
Clubs like Liverpool are most definitely not basing transfer decisions off of xG.

Can be one of many factors with relevance but in isolation it is a farily useless stat.
 

KingLeo10

Senior Member
I understand that some Football fans don't like complex statistics like xG and stuff because it's simple, good old Football; why make it complicated?

But xG is a genuine thing. A lot of people totally misunderstand the purpose of xG.

xG isn't the ultimate decider in anything and it isn't meant to be.

It is just the statistical evaluation of the quantitive goal scoring chances and situations a team has created.

And, Real Madrid pressing well at the end certainly shows in the xG charts. The Rodrygo chances and the pens added to Real's xG as they were great chances legitimately created by RM and as Morten said, Real ended up with similar xG to City which indicates the quality of chances they produced towards the end.

Dismissing xG model is off the mark. Our entire recruitment strategy is based on xG and even more "hipster stats".

It's just a by-product of the technological improvements in the sport. It serves it's purpose adequately but we must treat it for what it is.

May 28, 2022:

Liverpool: xG 2.32
RM: xG 1.27

Final scoreline: RM 3-1 Liverpool

:lol:
 

Temptation

Well-known member
That makes no sense but I know for fact it is not a stats held up on its own as meaning all that much and not something clubs are basing signings off of.

Ofcourse it's a combination of several metrics.

There's the subjective side of things. You have scouts.

The objective running, stamina, scoring, assisting, game involvement, build up involvement, presses per 90 and tons of others are used to assess which players will suit your club.
 
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Temptation

Well-known member
May 28, 2022:

Liverpool: xG 2.32
RM: xG 1.27

Final scoreline: RM 3-1 Liverpool

:lol:

Congrats on that 1 in advance

But once again you replied before reading. I clearly mentioned it ain't ultimate decider or anything of that sort. Premature...:lol:
 
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