Champions League

Birdy

Senior Member
At the risk of sounding like a RM fan (which I assure you I'm not):

They faced Napoli (meh, agreed), Bayern (strong), AM (strong), and Juve (strong) in 16/17.

And then, they faced PSG (strong), Juve (strong), Bayern (strong), and Pool (not their peak but still a dangerous side) in 17/18.

In fact, RM 17/18 probably had the joint toughest or second toughest CL KO draw ever along with Barca 14/15...where we had City (strong), PSG (strong), Bayern (strong), and Juventus (strong).


All of that RM luck narrative is because of 15/16 where they did have Europa level draws to the final...but so did Bayern in 19/20 (yes Barca was Europa level last season in actuality).

That sounds right only about 17/18, in which season other factors contributed: black voodoo magic against Bayern (should have won with a scoreline of 5-2 on aggregate), refereeing against Juve and PSG, Karius and Ramos being dirty against Liverpool.
17/18 was essentially a travesty that football suffered in CL.
 

FC B

Senior Member
RM faced Bayern in 3 of their 4 CL winning seasons. And Bayern had a class manager each time. Pep, Ancelotti, Heynckes.

Was not refering to those particular times in which luck and referees made Madrid "look better" than even current sextuple Bayern team or prime Barca 2009-2011/2015 teams that never won two CL back to back let alone three in a row...

I'm speaking of recent seasons from which VAR was finally implemented.

This is the end of the line for Real. At least we can be glad for that.

Wished I was so convinsed as you are. This is not LFC of previous seasons anymore and they are also plagued with injuries in some key positions. But ofc I'd be very content if it will be so as you say.+

:lol: :lol:

These are some elite mental gymnastics. If they had you in the Barca team we would have never choked those ties.

:facepalm:
 
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Morten

Senior Member
Was not refering to those particular times in which luck and referees made Madrid "look better" than even current sextuple Bayern team or prime Barca 2009-2011/2015 teams that never won two CL back to back let alone three in a row...

I'm speaking of recent seasons from which VAR was finally implemented.

Of course, its always "luck" or "Perez payed the ref, srlsy you gaiz".

Keep those tears coming, love it.
 

Morten

Senior Member
Ramos will break Salah again, and Real will advance.

Can never rule the other attackers out, but, if Salah was having the kind of season that Mane is having, he would be slaughtered.

Now, Mane is a good player, but he somehow escape criticism.
 

Rassvet

Well-known member
Liverpool will win as long as they go all out heavy metal football. Thiago should be benched with a workhorse midfield instead in both legs.
 

messi2140

6racies Xavi
Of course, its always "luck" or "Perez payed the ref, srlsy you gaiz".

Keep those tears coming, love it.

“In my mind, you guys have 0 CL's. I don't care what people think, what they say. In my mind, you got lucky not just this year but always, you are always always lucky.” :crbust:
 

FC B

Senior Member
Of course, its always "luck" or "Perez payed the ref, srlsy you gaiz".

Keep those tears coming, love it.

Madrid-Bayern was probably the biggest robbery in the history of modern european football so please stfu and go and post your shit on rm's forums, not here.
 

FC B

Senior Member
Just can’t see how Liverpool advance with that defence over 180 mins. Would need a miracle imo.

That's what I'm thinking too. Maybe they will compensate with counters but those two CB's LFC has available right now give me chills and when faced to serious oppositios they may just wreak havoc for Liverpool.
 

Catta

Senior Member
Can never rule the other attackers out, but, if Salah was having the kind of season that Mane is having, he would be slaughtered.

Now, Mane is a good player, but he somehow escape criticism.

Mane was only great in the two seasons where Liverpool was a force in EPL. The rest he was a 10-15 goal per season forward. Which is far from bad, but also not WC level he is portrayed to be. He became a little bit overrated, was never on a level close to Salah. About the others, Jota is still untested on the highest level, and Firmino scores every leap year.

You stop Salah, and you have stopped 90% of Liverpools attack force.
 

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