CL | 1/8 Finals: FC Barcelona - Lyon 5-1 agg.

Leo_Messi

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Not read any articles from the local press today but they probably mean that the objective is not to concede first which there is nothing wrong with as that is pretty crucial as Lyon scoring first would change the dynamics of the tie and game completely. There will be nothing wrong with having such a goal as long as we don't change our approach which should be to kill the game as soon as possible and simply overpower Lyon offensively at the Camp Nou, where our statistic is amazing, and where we are always expected to dominate regardless of opposition.

Scoring the first goal and then deciding to sit back and defend and play on the counter (without Dembélé) around would be an enormous own goal that is bound to backfire. We will need a performance much like against Sevilla in the CdR. Dominance from the first to the last minute. More or less.
 
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serghei

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Even if Lyon score first, nobody stops us from amping the pressure and punishing them after that. Rayo scored first too, this proves nothing. Arsenal scored first in 2011 as well, ended 4-1. Scoring first can only be a weapon against teams struggling with confidence.

If you score first vs Barca in min 10 on Camp Nou you still have 80 more minutes of suffering you're not likely to get out of well. IF we play what we should be playing of course. If you screw around like fools we can surely do a PSG.
 
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Leo_Messi

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Even if Lyon score first, nobody stops us from amping the pressure and punishing them after that. Rayo scored first too, this proves nothing. Arsenal scored first in 2011 as well, ended 4-1. Scoring first can only be a weapon against teams struggling with confidence.

If you score first vs Barca in min 10 on Camp Nou you still have 80 more minutes of suffering you're not likely to get out of well. IF we play what we should be playing of course. If you screw around like fools we can surely do a PSG.

Sure, the point is though that there is nothing wrong with trying to limit your opponent from scoring in particular when going into the second leg completely tied and knowing that a draw (as long as not goalless which would be completely unrealistic) would make you exit the CL.

You can and should (in our case) have an offensive approach with the goal to kill off the tie as quickly as possible and dominate the play as much as possible and at the same time try to limit the opponent to few if any chances and thus reduce the likeliness of them scoring greatly.

No need to commit silly defensive mistakes and give Lyon a goal and make it far too exciting when we should be beating them 3-0 or 4-0 on a a good/very good night which we are perfectly capable of doing.

Also Lyon, while not impressive in the first leg, have the potential and players to make life difficult for us even if we have a good day. They are not to be underestimated.

Anyway the referee will be that idiotic bald Polish referee that is incredibly poor. The same guy that was the referee when we lost 4-0 against PSG and 3-0 against Juve away.:facepalm:

https://www.mundodeportivo.com/futb...lyon-champions-ocatvos-de-final-camp-nou.html
 
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FinBarcelonafan

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Not read any articles from the local press today but they probably mean that the objective is not to concede first which there is nothing wrong with as that is pretty crucial as Lyon scoring first would change the dynamics of the tie and game completely. There will be nothing wrong with having such a goal as long as we don't change our approach which should be to kill the game as soon as possible and simply overpower Lyon offensively at the Camp Nou, where our statistic is amazing, and where we are always expected to dominate regardless of opposition.

Scoring the first goal and then deciding to sit back and defend and play on the counter (without Dembélé) around would be an enormous own goal that is bound to backfire. We will need a performance much like against Sevilla in the CdR. Dominance from the first to the last minute. More or less.

THANK YOU! Exactly what we are afraid of and what Valverde will end up doing. We will end up sitting back with 2-0 lead and fuck up massively. This team can't sit on leads, it's not built for it.
 

raki

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Dembelé is a massive loss since Ccoutinho is not performing and Valverde would not play Malcom as he should...
 

behindbrowneyes

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Dembelé is a massive loss since Ccoutinho is not performing and Valverde would not play Malcom as he should...

Apart from the game vs. Real Dembélé was struggling too. He was a different beast before his injury (the one before the recent one).

I expect the same approach like in the Copa return-leg vs. Sevilla. Kill the tie asap and never stop going for the next goal.
 

Porque

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With Alba basically being a one man attack down the left side, Coutinho has no excuse not to perform really. As long as he covers space defensively, he is allowed to drift into the AML/AMC positions centrally that he likes in attack, and combine with Suarez and Messi like he managed to do last season.

This is a great game for him to step up. Sadly I fear he won't and we will be lacking pace in offence and play conservative Ernie-Ball, but be saved by an on form Messi. Perhaps a brace.

Luckily Arthur is also back to help control the game and unleash Rakitic.
 

Giginho75

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Two doubts Semedo/Roberto and Dembele/Coutinho.
The rest of eleven are clear (at least for me), with Umtiti and Arthur totally recovered.
 
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neo_wolf

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We have to come out like vicious dogs from the first minute like against psg a couple of years back, if we come out with that kind of intensity then we will put the game away easy.
 

Giginho75

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Not sure- I can also imagine a 442 with both semedo and roberto

Do you mean 442 system with two wings like Cou and Demb?

Anyway I don't believe we need to change system.
Mostly because our midfield made perfectly to play with three players.
 

kollegah

Senior Member
Do you mean 442 system with two wings like Cou and Demb?

Anyway I don't believe we need to change system.
Mostly because our midfield made perfectly to play with three players.

no I meant 442 with a flat 4 consisting of robert-busi-raki-arthur
 

Giginho75

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no I meant 442 with a flat 4 consisting of robert-busi-raki-arthur

I don't like.
First point: Arthur is a classic brasilian midfielder who has to play a lot of balls and he has not leg and run to play on the wing.
Second point: Barca has in the squad the right players for 433 and, if you want change, then you can choose 4231 and not 422.
 

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