CL | Round 1: FC Barcelona - Bayern Munchen 0-3

[FinBarcelonafan]

It's funny seeing people talk about Europa.

If Fucking Benfica finish above us the president, the board, the players and the coach all just depart immediately

Good point. We should still finish above Benfica/Kiov.

 

[Richard.H]

We have had many crops of players come and go without success. To me it is a club culture thing, like what Ageuro said about players not showing up early enough before training compared to City, like what Firpo said about video analysis, like what Coutinho (?) or some other players said about our training sessions etc. compared to other club's. We are just too fucking laid back, in my opinion, from probably the sporting director, to the manager and the entire coaching stuff to the players.

We probably need more people like Setien's Sarabia or however you spell his name to kick some butts here.

The Sarabia lad got cucked by the amigos. There needs to be quite literally a brand new slate/new canvas for the club: No remnants of 2015 that means everyone is out of the club from that era even MATS. Youngsters would listen to a coach like that and be willing to try new fitness and diet regimes. Lucho doesn't get enough credit for this.

I thought RK would be that coach but even he is willingly playing the likes of Roberto and Busi day in day out.

 

[Luftstalag14]

I agree, and actually I don't think next generation is slow paced as much.
Maybe Pedri, but Araujo, FDJ, Fati, Balde ad Gavi are all playing on much quicker pace.
We need a quick attacker though, it will change a lot in the team.
I think we are one good summer away from returning into a decent big team (not elite one)
A proper DM, a quick attacker (Adeyami) and that is a totally different team IMO

I hope you are right Khaled but I am not that optimistic. I am quite optimistic about our outlook in several years, just not sure if it is that quick. I caught some of our UEFA Youth League game today against Bayern (best moments of today for me ) and saw much better play than what our first team displayed. I think our future will be bright, but the first team really needs some sort of shock therapy in my opinion to rid us off that listless spirit (can't describe what it is, you know what I mean) that is dragging us down. In the current environment, fast attackers will slow down, everyone who used to play fast will slow down when they come here.

 

[FinBarcelonafan]

The Sarabia lad got cucked by the amigos. There needs to be quite literally a brand new slate/new canvas for the club: No remnants of 2015 that means everyone is out of the club from that era even MATS. Youngsters would listen to a coach like that and be willing to try new fitness and diet regimes. Lucho doesn't get enough credit for this.

I thought RK would be that coach but even he is willingly playing the likes of Roberto and Busi day in day out.

Thank you. This is spot on. I think they culture of the club is just messed up. This amigo needs to end now.

Send Pique/Alba/Roberto/Busi bagging next offseason. We need to move on, ASAP. Quick the better.


In reality, that should have been done 2-3 years ago...

 

[Messigician]

Oh brother people actually asking for the Sarabia Setien days.

It's not rock bottom we are in freefall

 

[serghei]

We have had many crops of players come and go without success. To me it is a club culture thing, like what Ageuro said about players not showing up early enough before training compared to City, like what Firpo said about video analysis, like what Coutinho (?) or some other players said about our training sessions etc. compared to other club's. We are just too fucking laid back, in my opinion, from probably the sporting director, to the manager and the entire coaching stuff to the players.

We probably need more people like Setien's Sarabia or however you spell his name to kick some butts here.

High-office positions are of lesser importance once you get past the transfer and contracts stuff. On team issues, the manager is the boss. The teams are built based on his vision (or lack thereof), his obsessions, his demands.

That's the whole idea. We need to get rid of the tendency to sign managers that will adapt to how we do things, and adapt things based on what that manager desires. For this to happen you have to either acquire a world-class manager among the biggest, most established names, or you need to discover one.

Setien and Sarabia were not good enough obviously, but they did have a vision and they did have an initial commitment to implement it. But once that was faced with adversity from board / amigo side, it all vanished very easily.

 

[Luftstalag14]

The problem with us playing in the EL (we might as well end up there) is financial. Payout from CL games is significantly higher than those from the EL games. Of course, we can't control that if that's where we are going.

The more important thing is to qualify for the CL so we need to finish top 4 in the league. Will be a tall order for a couple of seasons.

 

[CatalinR10]

I've heard this was our first game in history where we didn't have a shot on goal ?

 

[Richard.H]

I've heard this was our first game in history where we didn't have a shot on goal ?

I read this too

 

[Messigician]

High-office positions are of lesser importance once you get past the transfer and contracts stuff. On team issues, the manager is the boss. The teams are built based on his vision (or lack thereof), his obsessions, his demands.

That's the whole idea. We need to get rid of the idea that we need to sign managers that will adapt to how we do things, and adapt things based on what that manager desires. For this to happen you have to either acquire a world-class manager among the biggest, most established names, or you need to discover one.

No one wants to come here get it through your heads

Setien was 4th choice, Koeman was 5th choice, and that was WITH MESSI SUAREZ, who the fuck wants to come to this shit show.

Even Xavi refused us twice and he's in fucking Qatar of all places

This club is in CRISIS

 

[ajnotkeith]

The problem with getting the amigos out is there is no alternatives. The board made no signings this year and kicked out a bunch of useful players without replacing them, including Messi. Which results in what you see with him having to sub on kids. Chelsea's bench is better than our starting 11.

Messi had already been carrying a corpse squad for years. Then kick out a bunch of other useful players (I don't like Grizi, and he is in a bad patch of form, but he at least has much experience in big games and is not Luuk De Jong). Such situation leads to us starting Luuk De Jong and subbing on kids that should be in Barca B.

Our only real meaningful signing was Depay. Garcia, Aguero are both not gonna have much of an impact and Emerson got sold.

 

[serghei]

We need to keep playing in CL and improve. Nobody will care about the bad losses once a new dominant cycle will be built.

 

[FinBarcelonafan]

The problem with getting the amigos out is there is no alternatives. The board made no signings this year and kicked out a bunch of useful players without replacing them, including Messi. Which results in what you see with him having to sub on kids. Chelsea's bench is better than our starting 11.

I rather suffer from kids than watch these amigos earn way too much money playing shit football.

 

[serghei]

The problem with getting the amigos out is there is no alternatives. The board made no signings this year and kicked out a bunch of useful players without replacing them, including Messi. Which results in what you see with him having to sub on kids. Chelsea's bench is better than our starting 11.

No ideal alternatives, true, but better alternatives still no doubt.

 

[Bobo32]

I've heard this was our first game in history where we didn't have a shot on goal ?

CL history I read, since 2004?
Busquets was closest I believe, but the Bayern defender blocked better than Eric, there...