He was Chile captain already at 2010 World Cup. That's an international team with strong identity and very demanding and intensive high line. He made more saves than any La Liga keeper in last couple of years. Surely he was doing something right as a goalkeeper. You followed him carefully throughout career and know something we don't?
Thankfully, your unfounded and delusional opinion is irrelevant.
This thread really is a showcase of the worst in modern football fan: fickleness, impatience, arrogance, entitlement and lack of attention span.
I'm pretty curious about what was watched by Barca fans about TS before he joined that made him so unquestionable #1 Barca material: A youtube video compilation? What did he achieve btw? I really doubt (except German members) that a lot of people watch Bundesliga week in, week out. So please can you share what did you watch from TS (not in youtube plox) that made him unquestionable better than a seasoned GK with international caps (2 WC & 2 CA), La Liga & CL experience.
His time with the international team is absolutely irrelevant to me no matter how good or bad he played...
I wouldn't use Chile national team as a proof of Bravo qualities. It's not like they have many choices other than him, like Germany for example. Who is Chilean backup GK right now? I'm sure almost no one here knows the answer. So he doesn't exactly have a lot of competition there.
For the millionth time, nobody here had any relevant data to gauge both keepers values and potential with certainty. Couple of matches and youtube clips, some bits of data here and there - absolutely irrelevant. Sure people had their ideas and expectations, but they could have easily been proven WRONG (as they did).But the point of him being favoured to Bravo here comes down to just him being a very talented young gk, who could be the gk for 10+ years, and Bravo having a very bad season in 13-14 for Sociedad.
For the millionth time, nobody here had any relevant data to gauge both keepers values and potential with certainty. Couple of matches and youtube clips, some bits of data here and there - absolutely irrelevant. Sure people had their ideas and expectations, but they could have easily been proven WRONG (as they did).
The whole crux of it is you lot had constructed this stupid narrative in your heads, of one keeper imaged as Barca saviour, while the other assumed role of uninvited annoyance, basically an antagonist. You can tell many people here actually wanted him to fail - no doubt about that.
It is amusing how people just wont let go of their pre-determined ideas and delusions, even when proven to be blatantly wrong and based on flimsy evidence.
As I said, it's OK to have subjective ideas and expectations. But not to the point they become more important than reality. People today have no patience, jump to conclusions too early and absolutely refuse to accept possibility they were wrong.
Well I actually said:So you're saying people in foruns can't have opinions, because you think they don't have enough data to judge... well, that's just an assumption from your part.
it's OK to have subjective ideas and expectations. But not to the point they become more important than reality. People today have no patience, jump to conclusions too early and absolutely refuse to accept possibility they were wrong.
Unfortunately, I think some did.I don't think anyone wants Bravo to fail, that's a crazy narrative created by some like yourself.
Well I actually said:
Unfortunately, I think they did.
Don't exhaust yourself with logic bro, it's clear that TS is a fan favorite here. Nothing wrong with that tbh, young player hype will always be strong on football forums.
Unfortunately it looks like the analysis will also be biased despite their performances for Barca (which is the MAIN argument)
Claudio did his job last season, got a couple of records to his individual stats, saved the team in more than a couple of "uneventful/uncomplicated" (lmfao) matches but for some reason some people got stucked with 2 mistakes in Napoli & Sevilla (1 irrelevant match & other that had no take in the final outcome).
The Mats brigade narrative last year was:
- TS is a better keeper, he just needs consistency to start playing all comps
Consistency was given earlier this season, the overall performance has been poor, so the narrative changes to:
- TS is the future of Barca, have patience, critique is unfounded & unfair.
If Claudio answers with clean sheets, the story will change to:
- He is lucky, he had nothing to do, defense is playing better.
@Flavia people are entitled to their opinions, but a football opinion means shit if its not founded with objective analysis. If we sit here discussing likeness like a bunch of fanboys, we could all close this forum and call it FCB Celebrity Deadmatch and start throwing feces at every thread like retards.
Don't exhaust yourself with logic bro, it's clear that TS is a fan favorite here. Nothing wrong with that tbh, young player hype will always be strong on football forums.
Unfortunately it looks like the analysis will also be biased despite their performances for Barca (which is the MAIN argument)
Claudio did his job last season, got a couple of records to his individual stats, saved the team in more than a couple of "uneventful/uncomplicated" (lmfao) matches but for some reason some people got stucked with 2 mistakes in Napoli & Sevilla (1 irrelevant match & other that had no take in the final outcome).
The Mats brigade narrative last year was:
- TS is a better keeper, he just needs consistency to start playing all comps
Consistency was given earlier this season, the overall performance has been poor, so the narrative changes to:
- TS is the future of Barca, have patience, critique is unfounded & unfair.
If Claudio answers with clean sheets, the story will change to:
- He is lucky, he had nothing to do, defense is playing better.
[MENTION=20103]Flavia[/MENTION] people are entitled to their opinions, but a football opinion means shit if its not founded with objective analysis. If we sit here discussing likeness like a bunch of fanboys, we could all close this forum and call it FCB Celebrity Deadmatch and start throwing feces at every thread like retards.