Clément Lenglet (loaned to Atletico)
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Messi983
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Problem with loaning him to a Spanish club is they could only cover around 20% of his wages. Italian club like Milan or Napoli would maybe cover 40-50%. PL clubs could cover 60-70% but none of the top 7 clubs want him and he doesn't want to join mid/lower table teams that don't play in Europe.
Ideally would be if we could convince him to go to SA. Even if no transfer fee, just so we can offload his wages. But he doesn't want to go there.
Ideally would be if we could convince him to go to SA. Even if no transfer fee, just so we can offload his wages. But he doesn't want to go there.
Loki
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He already declined it. The club needs to do an Umtiti 2.0 here. Extend his contract to 5 years, devide his current wages on these 5 years so you have it way easier to find clubs be able to pay his salary. If he'll agree to that is another question of course.
JamDav1982
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I think the rules change to stop them being able to do that and also these back heavy contracts.
The type of contract FDJ and Lenglet are on Barca would 100% be using if they could.. even if not thing long term.
Can still have increasing contracts.. see Lewa.. but not to extent of those in past and dont think can start giving 5 year contracts to players then punting them for FFP anymore.
Paying off debts related to covid were under different rules also.
Loki
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JamDav1982
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Yes the over rated him and also made it back heavy due to finances at time and ease pressure then.
Loki
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What rules are you talking about? It's just a normal contract extension between player and club. No rule can stop that.
JamDav1982
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No there are rules on what contracts will be accepted by the league for FFP.
Barca could not sign extensions now where barely pay players for 2 years then 'over pay' them in years 3,4 and 5.
It would be fudging the rules now and putting too heavy a pressure on club down the line.
Barca would be doing that for fun if thats all it took.
The league would not even allow Barca to put Felix true cost on the books last season for similar reasons.
I suspect many (former and current) Barca executives deliberately paid and pay more than they should as then you have wiggle room for corruption and kick backs. They treat Barca as public property/company (people that grew in socialism where everything was state owned know what I'm talking about) and have little regard for it long term or prudent and effective managing.
With public owned entities there needs to be extra systems in place to avoid corruption.
You pay a million more for.. let's Roque and then his club syphons some of that money somewhere connected to that director. It happens all the time. Same with wages.
With public owned entities there needs to be extra systems in place to avoid corruption.
You pay a million more for.. let's Roque and then his club syphons some of that money somewhere connected to that director. It happens all the time. Same with wages.
Yeah.
Also I'm reading about this Inigo private contract and I'm curious how many private contracts Madrid will have with players to lower the books.
Iñigo has that kind of contract?
Messi983
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What private contract with Inigo?
He has signed a 2 year contract but we could only register him for last season. If he wouldn't be under contract then he wouldn't train and play friendlies now (risk of injury).
He also had an opt out clause on July 15th if we couldn't register him to that date (we couldn't) but he didn't use it. AFAIK if we can't register him before end of TW he becomes a free agent. We would have to pay him out second year of his contract but his wages wouldn't count against FFP. But I also believe (could be wrong though) that we have to register all players still under contracts who were part of the first team last season (not sure about players returning from loans like Lenglet and Ansu though) before we can register a new signing like Olmo. We can't just decide to not register Inigo so he wouldn't count against salary cap and we would have more room to register other players. He either has to leave or he needs to be registered again.
He has signed a 2 year contract but we could only register him for last season. If he wouldn't be under contract then he wouldn't train and play friendlies now (risk of injury).
He also had an opt out clause on July 15th if we couldn't register him to that date (we couldn't) but he didn't use it. AFAIK if we can't register him before end of TW he becomes a free agent. We would have to pay him out second year of his contract but his wages wouldn't count against FFP. But I also believe (could be wrong though) that we have to register all players still under contracts who were part of the first team last season (not sure about players returning from loans like Lenglet and Ansu though) before we can register a new signing like Olmo. We can't just decide to not register Inigo so he wouldn't count against salary cap and we would have more room to register other players. He either has to leave or he needs to be registered again.
Loki
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It's not that kind of a contract. Barca did a normal extension with Umtiti, devided the money they owed him in the last year on the new contract, meaning he cost them 5 times less per year in the books.
The club can do the same with Lenglet. If the club ows him 30m in 2 years for example and everyone understands no club is willing to offer him this salary, Barca can extend the contract without paying him a new salary, just deviding these 30m to 5 years, meaning he'll earn 6m per season, not 15 anymore. He gets the same money just over a longer period, but has a chance to find a new club with his new 6m wages.
It's not about overpay them in the last years, but an usual, even payment over 5 years.
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