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[gasgas]

How is this forum still in the state where so many are just outright denying any little glimps of special talent Ronaldo actually has? It doesn't even require you to like him to just admit he's hella fucking good. Having less ability than Messi is not the same thing as having "little" of it.

But he "only" scores goals

 

[Yannik]

But he "only" scores goals

tons of them.

 

[Luftstalag14]

3 years ago this was not even a debate. Now he is scoring braces and hattricks in every CL knockout round, is on his way to 3 CLs in a row and even has a title with Portugal to his name while Messi lost 3 finals in a row. How quick things change.

There was a debate three years ago, there was always a debate between the two but it is true that a 30 something Ronaldo with his consistent performance and deliveries in the CL knock-out games have swung many people's minds into his column in the last several years.

One thing though, I have seen Messi getting compared with Maradona often and a few times to Pele even (not often), but I have never seen Ronaldo getting compared with those two. I think there is no denying when it comes to scoring goals Ronaldo is one of the top of the top, up there with the likes of Gerd Mueller etc. But overall as a footballer and his impact to the game he is not there with the likes of Pele/Maradona and Messi.

 

[gasgas]

There was a debate three years ago, there was always a debate between the two but it is true that a 30 something Ronaldo with his consistent performance and deliveries in the CL knock-out games have swung many people's minds into his column in the last several years.

One thing though, I have seen Messi getting compared with Maradona often and a few times to Pele even (not often), but I have never seen Ronaldo getting compared with those two. I think there is no denying when it comes to scoring goals Ronaldo is one of the top of the top, up there with the likes of Gerd Mueller etc. But overall as a footballer and his impact to the game he is not there with the likes of Pele/Maradona and Messi.

What more impact do you need luft?

Football is about scoring more goals than your opponent, and he does just that

 

[El Gato]

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[Luftstalag14]

What more impact do you need luft?

Football is about scoring more goals than your opponent, and he does just that

Creating chances, making key passes, providing assists, changing the momentum of the game (the game against AC Milan and PSG came to mind, for example).

If you think whoever scores the most goals is automatically the greatest, then we have to agree to disagree.

 

[Hardy]

You don't become a freak of nature by accident

he didn't become, he's born with that qualities, like Nadal, Lebron, Phelps, Jordan, Serena Williams, he's the greatest athlete i ever seen in this sport.

 

[gasgas]

he didn't become, he's born with that qualities, like Nadal, Lebron, Phelps, Jordan, Serena Williams, he's the greatest athlete i ever seen in this sport.

He trained to gain that physique.

He wasn't that athletic when he started out

 

[gasgas]

Creating chances, making key passes, providing assists, changing the momentum of the game (the game against AC Milan and PSG came to mind, for example).

If you think whoever scores the most goals is automatically the greatest, then we have to agree to disagree.

Why provide assists while you can score all the three goals yourself, and he assisted Marcelo today

And Ronaldo has a very high number of keypasses and assists himself

Do you think a 3 minute away goal and capitalizing a defensive error to score a 2 nd away goal doesn't change the momentum of the game?

 

[MessiTBE]

Oh he score bicycle kick therefore he must be better than Messi. Stupid people.

 

[Luftstalag14]

Why provide assists while you can score all the three goals yourself, and he assisted Marcelo today

And Ronaldo has a very high number of keypasses and assists himself

Do you think a 3 minute away goal and capitalizing a defensive error to score a 2 nd away goal doesn't change the momentum of the game?

Ronaldo certainly was clutch today, that was the definition of being clutch. I was talking about the whole career up to date.

And you are not always in the position to score a goal, crating chances for others is equally important.

Anyway, feel free to believe whoever is the greatest in your opinion, we are all subjective and I do not seek to change your opinion here.

 

[ronniecro]

He trained to gain that physique.

He wasn't that athletic when he started out

funny then how he plummets down to ground even after slightest touch

 

[gasgas]

funny then how he plummets down to ground even after slightest touch

You see, with all that lack of natural ability,
He stilll achieves the same/more than Messi who has multiple abilities

 

[Hardy]

2.27 meters his jump.

 

[El Flaco]

Buffon: "CR7 is an extraordinary player that with Messi can be compared to Maradona & Pelé in how significant they're in the matches & trophies won by their teams."