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JamDav1982

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No last minute Ramos header or Bale bicycle kick, no CL trophy for him. Looks like he is just not good enough to carry a team.

That is like claiming Messi cant win it without Iniesta or Neymar etc. Just picking names from past teams that have had moments. Doesnt work like that.

Ronaldo is most likely the greatest CL player of all time.
 

Tackle

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mmm maybe but dude always said he wants to finish with more ballon d'or than Messi and if doesn't win CL can dream that.

Portugal look like a decent side these days. Felix, Bruno, Bernardo etc.

He won't win a CL with Juventus. EURO 2021 is his last chance.
 

Xaviniesta

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He?ll never surpass Messi in ballon d?or now. History will rightfully remember Messi as the better player. Ronaldo isn?t winning anything relevant in his career again. only Dubai d?ors for him from now on :lol:
 

Ritchie

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That is like claiming Messi cant win it without Iniesta or Neymar etc. Just picking names from past teams that have had moments. Doesnt work like that.

Ronaldo is most likely the greatest CL player of all time.

Neither of them.can win with bums though which is what they have now. Only Messi is judged though.
 

ThwiX

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Just saw the highlights. Crazy how from reading the headlines you would think he scored an amazing long shot, but it was more than anything poor goalkeeping by his compatriot, Lopes.
 

JamDav1982

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Neither of them.can win with bums though which is what they have now. Only Messi is judged though.

Messi just won the balondor when Barca could not win it and dont pretend Messi has been great each year in CL when Barca have failed either.

Both are judged.

Ronaldo has been the better CL knockout player overall.
 
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