Cristiano Ronaldo - v1

pEllee

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Why not? Based on individual stats, he is ahead of Messi.

Ye, perhaps when it comes to goals. But you don't compare Messi and Ronaldo by just looking at goals. They're too different to compare.

But, it certainly wouldn't be a disgrace or anything if Ronaldo did win it. He's had a fantastic year and he keeps scoring for fun despite the fact that Real Madrid aren't doing well as a team.
 

flamenco

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here is Cristiano saluting the general :lol:
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Babylonian

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Why are some being so hormonal thinking cr is winning bd'Or? Messi wil win it.. ppl tend to forget 2010 where iniesta and xavi were heads n shoulders above anything cr has shown this year.. guess who won it?
 

raskolnikov

Well-known member
I don't think Messi deserved to win in 2010 either but people do underestimate that year, as if it was an average poor year, Messi's 2010> 2013 for example.
 

Ocurrente

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who deserves it more than him?. Messi was injured and didn't shine in those important final season matches, and only won la liga. Cristiano also failed in the final season matches and won nothing. Ribery on the other hand performed great all the year and won the ducking treble.
 

Luftstalag14

Culé de Celestial Empire
who deserves it more than him?. Messi was injured and didn't shine in those important final season matches, and only won la liga. Cristiano also failed in the final season matches and won nothing. Ribery on the other hand performed great all the year and won the ducking treble.

He performed great all year round? By what standard? Again, how is he more deserving to win than other Bayern players such as Robben, who has more goals and assists than Ribery? Please someone, show me why and how Ribery personally contributed more than any other Bayern players to Bayern's treble?
 

pEllee

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who deserves it more than him?. Messi was injured and didn't shine in those important final season matches, and only won la liga. Cristiano also failed in the final season matches and won nothing. Ribery on the other hand performed great all the year and won the ducking treble.

Oh please, that's such bullshit. Important matches? What is an important match is something we first have to define. Usually it always seems to mean a knockout stage of the champions league. I'd like to believe more matches are important than those.

And like I've said at least 40 times by now, Ribery's performances in all of these so called big matches were nothing great at all. Robben was by far the superior attacking player in that Champions league season. Yes, Ribery was indeed a better player in the Bundesliga but you obviously don't seem to think that it's enough to just perform in your domestic league. Which was basically what Ribery did.

Besides, Messi still had a very good CL season.
 

putogusiluz8

The Pale One
Ribery will win it and nobody will remember. Never the less let the man enjoy his moment of glory. The circumstances are right for him to win it, any other season even if he had won the cl he wouldnt have had a chance. But thats life.
 

suckabov

Lemon curry?
Why not? Based on individual stats, he is ahead of Messi.

Implying that Messi won the last four because he had better stats than Ronaldo? As Flavia said, this year, he failed to impress in every aspect except goalscoring. And that's nothing new at all. People knew he can score loads of goals in the last years too, which didn't help him at all. The voters aren't obsessively counting every goal to evaluate whom they vote for, that's why there's no need to go on about this each time Ronaldo scores. He always has.

And by the way, in the last 3 years, Mesut Özil has created more chances and given more assists than any other player in Europe, including Messi, Ronaldo, Ribery, Xavi, etc. Does that mean he'd deserve an award too? Stats don't matter at all. No need to get obsessive over them.

Ribery is going to deservedly win it

Go to the FIFA website and look at the PDF containing last year's votes. Search the document for "Lionel Messi" - now tell me if you honestly think Ribery could match that number? Pay special attention to voters from outside of Europe.

If a player's main advantage is winning titles and given the amount of votes Messi and CR get simply because of their status as the best two players in the world, that player would need to be clearly above everyone else from his club to collect enough votes to compete with those two. In Ribery's case this is simply not the case - the Bayern competition on this shortlist is much too high for him to get 20-30% of the votes. It's similar to expecting 2010 Xavi to beat Messi when Iniesta is nominated too. Bayern can't even campaign for him as much as they did until now, because they wouldn't dare to promote him while also 3 of their home-grown German players are among the nominees.

Having said that, Lahm and Schweinsteiger have equally good chances as Ribery, given that they are considered to currently be the world's best on their respective position, which is not the case for Ribery. (No one really argues that Ribery > CR).
 

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