Cristiano Ronaldo - v1

oggydude

New member
Don't believe he is the best player ever, or better than Messi on form but 4 seasons consistently getting 50 goals or more is amazingly consistent something Messi hasn't done, he's also proved it in the 2 biggest leagues in the world over such a long time, who knows how good Messi will be at 29. Don't know of a player who has been that good throughout their career like Ronaldo.
 

xxxxxx

Senior Member
Ronaldo is not better than Messi.... and hasn't been better than Messi in any season. The reason he looks better is because he plays under a better manager, around a better team that suits him.

Messi plays under a poor manager with a declining team; that's a big difference of why Ronaldo looks better at the moment.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
Ronaldo is not better than Messi.... and hasn't been better than Messi in any season. The reason he looks better is because he plays under a better manager, around a better team that suits him.

Messi plays under a poor manager with a declining team; that's a big difference of why Ronaldo looks better at the moment.

This is the first season that for me Ronaldo has been the better player.

He has been more decisive in the biggest games. Even yesterday he kept Real in the league hunt by assisting and then equalising.

When he was missing against Dortmund they very nearly were knocked out the CL.

People complain about him never facing parked buses - well Valencia tried that yesterday and he made one goal and scored another.

Messi is still the better player but Ronaldo has been better over all this season for me.
 

raskolnikov

Well-known member
This is the first season that for me Ronaldo has been the better player.

He has been more decisive in the biggest games. Even yesterday he kept Real in the league hunt by assisting and then equalising.

When he was missing against Dortmund they very nearly were knocked out the CL.

People complain about him never facing parked buses - well Valencia tried that yesterday and he made one goal and scored another.

Messi is still the better player but Ronaldo has been better over all this season for me.

What did he do in the liga games vs Barca/Atletico? He hasnt been better its just hype, he was when Messi was injured, since then he hasnt been better in 2014.
And you cant compare one goal against Valencia with 60 games against a bus a year.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
What did he do in the liga games vs Barca/Atletico? He hasnt been better its just hype, he was when Messi was injured, since then he hasnt been better in 2014.
And you cant compare one goal against Valencia with 60 games against a bus a year.

He scored the equaliser away against Atletico and he has been better in the CL.

Messi has had one good game in eight games against Real and Atletico.

The way Ronaldo and Real Madrid play make it more difficult to play a parked bus game.

Ronaldo alone makes that difficult as he is so good in air and finishing crossed balls.
 

Cule4life

The Culest
Some ppl will keep clinging to Messi as he is their beloved player and they dont want to admit he's been poor this year. Ronaldo has worked harder on the field and been more decisive. There's really no argument against that. Both stats and the general play back it up
 

xavi_the_Boss

New member
Like a few others were saying on the La Liga thread, a draw might turn out to be a better result for Madrid than a win as it might ensure that Barca don't throw the last game. I personally don't think they would've thrown it either way, but you never know. Levante and Valencia had literally nothing to play for and they still took points off the Madrid clubs.

Don´t see how a draw turns out to be better then the win.I mean now atleti probably only needs a draw at the camp nou and Madrid also still have 2 away matches against Valladolid and Celta.
It will end like this-RM Drops Points against Valladolid or Celta,Atleti and Barca win against Malaga,Elche.Barca ends up winning the league through a 90th Minute golazo from iniesta against Atleti:pep:.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
Obviously he's been better this season. But Messi is still a better player when on form.

I doubt any one here disagrees with that but I find if baffling that some people still insist he has been better this season.

Bring up - what has he done against Atletico and Barca etc.

He has scored 3 in 4 games against Atletico and scored 1 and assisted 1 against Barca.

Messi has 0 goals and 0 assists in 5 games against Atletico and 3 goals and 1 assist against Madrid.

I cant stand Ronaldo but he has done it in the bigger games more so than Messi.
 
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voodoomaster

Guest
This is the first season that for me Ronaldo has been the better player.

He has been more decisive in the biggest games. Even yesterday he kept Real in the league hunt by assisting and then equalising.

When he was missing against Dortmund they very nearly were knocked out the CL.

People complain about him never facing parked buses - well Valencia tried that yesterday and he made one goal and scored another.

Messi is still the better player but Ronaldo has been better over all this season for me.

Yeah, ronaldo has been the key in the biggest matches this season. Like when real lost twice against Barca, like when real lost against atletico, and what about Bayern? Was he deceisive? Not really, in the first match he was average and not among reals best, in the second he scored on a bad shoot and a lucky freekick(one of 20, he is actually not very good at freekicks, he only has style), and the match was won already and he wasnt Even reals among reals 5 best players. In 2014 he hasnt Been very good at all, not close to reals best. But who gets the credit and the attention.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
Yeah, ronaldo has been the key in the biggest matches this season. Like when real lost twice against Barca, like when real lost against atletico, and what about Bayern? Was he deceisive? Not really, in the first match he was average and not among reals best, in the second he scored on a bad shoot and a lucky freekick(one of 20, he is actually not very good at freekicks, he only has style), and the match was won already and he wasnt Even reals among reals 5 best players. In 2014 he hasnt Been very good at all, not close to reals best. But who gets the credit and the attention.

Messi been decisive in one game out of eight against Real and Atletico.

Ronaldo has more goals and assists than him in these games.

Fair enough if you think Messi has been better but not for me.
 

xavisionary

Active member
The problem I have is that some Barca fans want to act like Ronaldo is average or overrated, and in comparison to Messi he is simply awful. He seems a bit full of himself but it's time to start admitting that across two of the greatest teams ever he's realised his amazing talent. Imagine if Ronaldinho had half of his mental strength? Or Adriano?
 

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