CuleLife4Life
Active member
In a way I wish he didn't win that dumb Golden Ball. Having people sh*t on it and complain about why he shouldn't have won it brought negative attention to him and his campaign.
DonAndres
Wild Man of Borneo
Yeah a lot of the weighting on this award is run by mob mentality. That Golden Ball got Messi more criticism for his WC than Ronaldo had for his (lol) so it's naive to count that as a positive factor for Messi. On the other hand, Ronaldo possesses the only two things the public ever notices: goals and trophies. Those are the only factors that ever come up in the discussion or debate about Ballon D'or. Even if by some chance Messi can rack up some 15-18 or so assists in the remaining 12 games, people will still only notice Ronaldo's scoring rate. What's an even bigger possible downside is that if Messi doesn't perform in El Clasico (i.e does worse than Ronaldo and/or Neymar/Suarez) then he'll get shit on further, to the point where media will say he wasn't even 2nd best. It really does all seem to be in Ronaldo's favor at this point. It'd take something on a 2012 Messi-esque level of miraculous to change that. Maybe the UCL/La liga all time records? I dunno.
That isn't to say that Messi deserved it anyway. Though on a game by game basis Messi's overall impact is far greater and more vital than Ronaldo, he didn't do anything this year to catch the public's eye other than the hat trick in the Bernabeu and the group stages of the WC.
That isn't to say that Messi deserved it anyway. Though on a game by game basis Messi's overall impact is far greater and more vital than Ronaldo, he didn't do anything this year to catch the public's eye other than the hat trick in the Bernabeu and the group stages of the WC.
Ursegor
World Champion
If we only look at individual quality Ronaldo actually had one of his worst years I would say.
On the surface he scored 17 CL goals but if you look in more detail how and against whom it was mostly statpadding par excellence.
3th, 4th and 6th goal against Galatasaray in a 6-1 rout.
3th and 6th goal against Schalke in a 6-1 rout.
2 goals against Schalke in the return leg (glorified friendly) when everything was done and dusted.
3th goals against Dortmund in a 3-0 victory.
The 4th and 5th goal of the 5 goals against Bayern over 2 legs after everything was done and dusted.
4th goal against Atletico via penalty when everything was done and dusted.
11 of his goals were scored after his teammates mowed the way for him. Another 3 goals came in an easy group stage tie against Copenhagen. You really have to question how influencial he was for Real Madrid's Decima.
In the Copa del Rey he didn't even play the final which his teammates won without him against Barcelona.
La Liga he didn't influence games against Barca or Atletico in both legs which ultimately saw Real finishing 3th behind both.
World Cup was lol.
Certainly don't think Messi deserves the Ballon d'Or for his last season but yeah, Ronaldo didn't really light up the world either although "Decima" and "17 CL goals" make it seem like that.
On the surface he scored 17 CL goals but if you look in more detail how and against whom it was mostly statpadding par excellence.
3th, 4th and 6th goal against Galatasaray in a 6-1 rout.
3th and 6th goal against Schalke in a 6-1 rout.
2 goals against Schalke in the return leg (glorified friendly) when everything was done and dusted.
3th goals against Dortmund in a 3-0 victory.
The 4th and 5th goal of the 5 goals against Bayern over 2 legs after everything was done and dusted.
4th goal against Atletico via penalty when everything was done and dusted.
11 of his goals were scored after his teammates mowed the way for him. Another 3 goals came in an easy group stage tie against Copenhagen. You really have to question how influencial he was for Real Madrid's Decima.
In the Copa del Rey he didn't even play the final which his teammates won without him against Barcelona.
La Liga he didn't influence games against Barca or Atletico in both legs which ultimately saw Real finishing 3th behind both.
World Cup was lol.
Certainly don't think Messi deserves the Ballon d'Or for his last season but yeah, Ronaldo didn't really light up the world either although "Decima" and "17 CL goals" make it seem like that.
Kerrybai
New member
People have short memories too, a couple of good months from Messi and he'll have every chance of winning.
Pepe Silvia
Active member
I always read this thread for a laugh. The insecurity of some Messi fans is real.
Luftstalag14
Culé de Celestial Empire
Visiting the Ronaldo thread on a RM forum will give you even more laugh.
Kerrybai
New member
Debating football topics on a football forum. I never.
footyfan
Calma, calma
I agree with his sentiment 100%. The insecurity of some Messi fans on here is not just real, it's unreal. Not just when discussing Ronaldo but look at the Messi thread itself. The overreactions for Messi's bad performances shows their fears clearly.
Luftstalag14
Culé de Celestial Empire
You are the one who lamented that in all aspects Messi is a worse player than he was before. You have to excuse us fans for not being in celebratory moods.
Luftstalag14
Culé de Celestial Empire
This. We are human, not machines.
Sumlit
San Claudio Bravo
Or... they are irrational people who make irrational statements? The Messi thread is an orgy of irrationality, hyperbole, overreaction and nonsense.
KingMessi
SiempreBlaugrana
What about the people who wait in their caves, coming out only when Messi has an off day just to say that he's declined and will never be the same again?
DonAK
President of FC Barcelona
+1
I've noticed they've stopped doing that now. A very interesting development.
Although there are still people talking about Messi 2012.
Messi 2012 was an unimaginable event which should be cherished forever, because it was such a sick year and achievment. It shouldn't be used to measure Messi's decline, hunger for success, priorities..... etc. And there are still several factors like injuries to take in to account as well.
I think people take what he did back then way too lightly and think it should be easy for Messi to do.
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